On Jun 30, 2006, at 8:50 AM, authfriend wrote:

--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On Jun 30, 2006, at 8:07 AM, authfriend wrote:



On the other hand--just hypothetically, now--if a

person had an entirely genuine desire to enlighten

the world, perceived that in order to do so it

would be necessary to have a big movement that was

run like a business--including accumulating money--

and himself had CEO-type inclinations in terms of

his temperament, how would his actions look any

different from what MMY is doing?


In other words, how can you tell the difference

between someone whose primary motivation is to

run a business that accumulates money and uses

a spiritual front to do so, and someone whose

primary motivation is to spiritually regenerate

the world and uses business techniques as a means?



I would hope it would look like what Sri Sri Ravi Shankar is

doing: creating a "Woodstock of meditation" and initiating millions 

on a donation basis and doing some important form of world-seva,  

tirelessly. Goenka and HH the Dalai Lama might be other examples 

of what I'd hope to see.



In other words, only the business models of which you

approve are valid ones for someone with a genuinely

spiritual motivation.


No, of course not, not my point at all.



I think there's too much an avaricious tone to M.'s actions to 

really fudge that as 'spiritual regeneration'.



How and where, exactly, do you draw the line

between making money to facilitate the spiritual

regeneration of the world and being avaricious?  


I don't think the point was necessarily about the amount of money generated but the duplicitous nature of the person raising it: spiritual and smiling to the cameras, avaricious and type A once the cameras are turned off. What's even more scary is someone like M. with some spiritual power and shakti and some minor siddhis leveraging them for these avaricious ends.

It wish I could find the quote attributed to SBS, it was right on the money. When you find out the guy was more like Donald Trump (or may Howard Hughes these days), one would hope it would give you pause to think.

There are a lot of stories that could be told which haven't.

Ever hear the story how right after Guru Dev died M. put up a sign saying ‘who wants instant enlightenment?’ and he would lay his hands on their heads, give them shakipat and the person would swoon. A kinda Reverend Mahesh affair. Small incidents like these speak volumes.







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