--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote: > > > > > > Personally, I have no need or desire for a guru or other > > > savior figure. But, there certainly is a very long tradition > > > of devotion to a guru, and it just struck me that being > > > devoted to MMY or Punditji is no different than MMY being > > > devoted to Guru Dev. > > > > I would suggest that there is a difference. You > > probably would never have seen the other disciples > > of Guru Dev obsessing about former fellow disciples > > who had moved on, and spending hours badrapping them. > > That's a Western addition to "guru yoga," and IMO > > it's not an improvement. > > So who here is a disciple of Gurudev?
THAT is an example of the intentional desire to mislead and deflect discussions Vaj was talking about. No one on earth is stupid enough to have gotten "folks here are disciples of Guru Dev" from what I wrote. What I was criticizing was something you do with Chopra and that others do with SSRS and other notable former TMers who have moved on. You seem to obsess on them, and whenever their name comes up, trash them again, as if they'd done something WRONG by moving on, or by choosing to have a life. I was saying (and I think you *knew* what I was saying and were trying to deflect the discussion elsewhere) that I would be willing to bet that the disciples of Guru Dev never sunk this low when one of their fellow students chose to move on. It's not that human nature has changed in the time since; it's just that (based on what we've heard about Guru Dev) their lives were probably full enough and fulfilling enough that they didn't have either the time or the inclination to fill it by trashing someone by implying they were "unfaithful" to Guru Dev, or that they somehow did him wrong by moving on. Plus, it is my bet that Guru Dev did not *encourage* trashing those who have moved on, whereas Maharishi definitely does. It is my contention that people in the TMO have been *trained* to react to those students who have moved on by trashing them, and by wishing the worst for them, *not* by wishing them well in their new lives. And this attitude comes straight from Maharishi; it's *him* who views anyone who doesn't stay with him forever as some kind of traitor. That 'tude just trickles down to the TM teachers and, through them, to the rank and file. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
