--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 2006, at 4:04 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > >>> --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley"
> > >>> <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Personally, I have no need or desire for a guru or other
> > >>>> savior figure. But, there certainly is a very long tradition
> > >>>> of devotion to a guru, and it just struck me that being
> > >>>> devoted to MMY or Punditji is no different than MMY being
> > >>>> devoted to Guru Dev.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would suggest that there is a difference. You
> > >>> probably would never have seen the other disciples
> > >>> of Guru Dev obsessing about former fellow disciples
> > >>> who had moved on, and spending hours badrapping them.
> > >>> That's a Western addition to "guru yoga," and IMO
> > >>> it's not an improvement.
> > >>
> > >> So who here is a disciple of Gurudev?
> > >
> > > THAT is an example of the intentional desire to
> > > mislead and deflect discussions Vaj was talking
> > > about. No one on earth is stupid enough to have
> > > gotten "folks here are disciples of Guru Dev"
> > > from what I wrote.
> 
> Actually, it's easy to see how Lawson could have
> gotten that idea if he didn't read what Alex said
> that Barry was responding to, to get the context.
> 
> > The fact that several people on this list routinely attempt such  
> > deflection, almost continuously, should tell us something.
> 
> Except that, as I pointed out, there's nowhere the
> discussion could have been deflected *to* based on
> Lawson's question, other than eliciting a correction
> from Barry.
> 
> Oh, wait, there's also the deflection *Barry* attempted--
> quite successfully, with Vaj's ready assistance--to the
> bogus issue of Lawson's integrity.
> 
> And Vaj, of course, routinely attempts to deflect
> discussions of something peculiar *he* has said by,
> instead of explaining it, accusing commenters of being
> incapable of understanding because they've drunk the
> TM Kool-Aid.
> 
> And Barry does the same with virtually all personal
> criticisms of his thinking.
> 
> What should it tell us that Barry and Vaj do exactly the
> same thing they accuse TMers of doing, I wonder?

It's one of the true wonders of the world -- how
can someone who is post-menopausal be so consistently
on the rag?  :-)








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