--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" 
> <marwincornyarmand@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" 
> > > <marwincornyarmand@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" 
> > > > <marwincornyarmand@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MMY used the words My Technique, My Vedic Science - My - 
> My -
> >  
> > > > > > My - long before that.
> > > > > > Maybe TM is MMY techniques and has nothing to do with 
Guru 
> > Devs 
> > > > > > teaching - and that MMY has mislead all TM-Teachers and 
all 
> > > > > > meditators about that fact. That he has used Guru Dev as 
an 
> > > > > > Alibi for good and bad? 
> > > > > > Ingegerd
> > > > > 
> > > > > MMY has made it clear from the start that TM is his baby,
> > > > > *based* on Gurudev's teachings. Did you somehow miss this, 
as 
> > > > > presented in SOBAL and the Gita commentaries?
> > > > > 
> > > > I am a bit sceptical about what MMY says and has written 
these 
> > > > days
> > > 
> > > You mean, you think he lied in SBAL and the Gita
> > > commentary, and TM was really *Guru Dev*'s technique?
> > > 
> > > But wait, you said above "Maybe TM is MMY techniques...
> > > and that MMY has mislead all TM-Teachers and all
> > > meditators about that fact."
> > > 
> > > Which is it?
> > 
> > I think MMY made the commentary in the Gita from his point of 
view, 
> > from his consciousness -. I have read other commentaries, that 
> > struck me is from a more "enlightened" view. I used to accept 
every 
> > word that came from MMYs lips as the ultimate truth - I do not do
> > that any more. As a TM-Teacher we were  told to say to the 
> > Meditators that TM is an very old technique, which comes from 
the 
> > chankarycharia tradition and MMY received that technique from 
Guru 
> > Dev. I doubt it. I think that MMY made his own technique
> 
> I guess I didn't make myself clear.  Your original
> statement and your response to Lawson seemed to be
> contradictory.  Your original statement doubted that
> TM came from Guru Dev; when Lawson told you MMY has
> said from the beginning that he had devised the
> technique, and that he says this in SBAL and his Gita
> commentary, you said you didn't trust what he's
> written, implying that he *didn't* devise the
> technique.
> 
>  - but most TM-
> > Teachers truly believe that the techniques comes from Guru Dev.
> 
> Actually, the introductory essay by Larry Domash
> to the first volume of the Collected Papers makes
> it very clear that the technique comes from MMY,
> albeit the knowledge that made devising the 
> technique possible came from Guru Dev.  And this
> essay was certainly approved by MMY.
> 
> What MMY says is that he *revived* the technique,
> that it had been lost.  Domash says MMY figured
> out, on the basis of his experience of Guru Dev's
> teaching and study of the ancient texts, what
> the original technique *must have been*.
> 
> I've never heard anything other than that.  I never
> heard that Guru Dev himself gave MMY the technique.

If you are a TM-Teacher - think about what you are saying in the 
steps before you do the Puja.
Ingegerd
> 
> 
> 
> > Sorry - but I have doubts in MMY.
> > Ingegerd
> > >
> >
>







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