--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > Note that the course fee in DC--everything included, > > meals, course, and hotel room--is now down to $50/day. > > I think Barry boasted that he was to pay almost $49 a > > day for his satsang retreat, holding it up as a "low > > price yardstick" as proof that the TMO's price wasn't > > really low... > > BTW (although you already know this), the price > I quoted was for a non-"emergency" course, just > one of the many satsang retreats that the teacher > offers around the world, so it's her regular price.
True, but *you* were the one who set it up as a contrast to the TM course in terms of dollars. > And it was about $48 a day for room, food, *and* > three several-hour-long sessions a day, conducted > by the teacher herself, not via video. :-) Uh-huh. As the TM course descriptions say, there will be knowledge meetings as well. Where does this teacher live, by the way? And how old is she? Does she bilocate if course are held in more than one place at once? > And the kicker is that she says clearly that if > people can't afford this they can come and camp > on the property and bring their own food, and > attend the course for free. Same with the TM course; the course itself is free. That's been her > policy from Day One of her teaching. That's one > reason I was interested in attending her satsang: > I respect her approach. > > You might look into it. That way, *you* might > actually attend a course someday, instead of > being all talk, no action on the Internet. :-) > > I'll be surprised if more than 100 non-locals > show up at each of the courses, but then unlike > you I *like* surprises. ??? What makes you think I don't like surprises? Why do you think I posted the current numbers of those applying? Some people might go > because they know it'll be their last chance > to "round" in a TM setting for a reasonable > price in this lifetime. Quite possibly. And as I said, some were probably already worried about the Middle East situation and felt the need to do something about it. > I respect those who, as people who profess to > believe in the value of performing the siddhis > in a group to help bring about world peace, > actually put their money and their time where > their mouth is. > > Many, if not most, of the people on this forum > have already "paid their dues" in terms of > putting their money where their mouth is many > times over. They believed strongly enough in > Maharishi's message and goals to participate > in them, and to make extraordinary sacrifices > in order to do so. They put their personal > dreams and aspirations on hold for years or > decades in order to actually DO something that > they believed would help the world, and help > someone beside themselves. > > You like to pose as the "repository of know- > ledge" re Things TM here on this group. Uh, no, I don't. And that's your phrase in quotes, not mine. But > I ask you, did you ever even check someone? > Did you volunteer for projects like Lawson is > doing now with his graphical work for the > research project? I respect that. Tell me > what you've done along the Way for people > other than yourself and perhaps...just > perhaps...I might actually develop a little > respect for you. Barry, if you ever started to respect me, I'd be very concerned that I was going in the wrong direction. Just for one thing, while I respect those who make sacrifices, it would never occur to me to look down on those who aren't inspired to do so, or whose life circumstances make it impossible, for whatever reason. Unlike you, I've *never* found the TMO tolerable, so I've never been inclined to involve myself with it beyond volunteering at my local center to help with initiations and do various other tasks when I lived in New York. To become more heavily involved would have been a lose-lose situation for both me and the TMO. I pay my dues to society in other ways where I can be more effective. > The others here have *paid* their dues in > the past, and in my opinion that entitles > them to make their own decisions in the > present with regard to how much they want > to participate in the latest Maharishi > "call to action." ROTFL! And I *don't* have the right to make my own decisions about how much I want to participate? I'm required to participate because I don't meet your definition of having paid my dues? Do you read what you write, Barry? But as far as I can tell > from the things you've written, you've never > answered that call even once in your life, > and yet continually look down on those > who have. I don't "look down on" anybody, Barry. That's your game. While I respect those who make sacrifices, as I said, I don't believe they're entitled to carte blanche for every aspect of their behavior simply because they've made those sacrifices. If they behave badly, they're not somehow immune to criticism. You sound like the fundamentalist Christians who believe that once they've accepted Jesus and had their sins forgiven, they're entitled to *continue* to sin without risking their salvation. (Note: That's a serious misunderstanding of even fundamentalist Christian doctrine; it's just that some fundies don't quite get it.) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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