Thanks for the honest answer. I agree with much of what you say, although I am still enjoying the siddhis. For me it was/is the greatest experience, very powerful, but not for everyone, and i understand why. You are right, it does not produce miracle change in life, but I still think it is good overall. Thanks for that answer. I relate a lot to what you said, but sidhis are still the most amazing thing I have ever done, but that doesn't mean it is for everyone.
OffWorld --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I enjoyed the experience of flying for the ten years I did it, and TM > for 15 years. Once I shifted my view of its value, I never desired > the experience again. I think the experience's value is not as > "self-evident" as some claim. Maybe the belief system has to support > it. Otherwise it just seems odd, and not an experience I would seek > out these days. As far as it benefit, that I no longer buy. I think > it is sort of a mini epileptic fit. Not too dangerous probably, but > not the greatest experience ever. I don't see people who have kept > it up as special in any way I can detect. By now it really should > have produced more of the claimed benefits in people practicing so > long. In the old days we would joke that without TM a person might be > even worse! That claim is getting hollower and hollower each decade. > > As far as transcending goes, I think that experience is also very > overrated as a valuable experience. Relaxation seems necessary in my > life in much smaller doses now that I don't do a program. The biggest > wellbeing booster for me is exercise. That experience seems to give > me all the mental clarity I was seeking with TM with the added benefit > of giving me much more energy. All that eyes closed time of the > program seems to sap people's energy despite the claims. I don't hang > out with anyone who needs a nap in the afternoon. (anyone with kids > excluded!) It is just something that people get used to I think. It > took me a few days to get over the need for program, then I just never > considered the need for more rest after sleeping, or in the afternoon. > There are too many activities that give me joy and help me grow. I > have become the busy businessman of the checking notes and wouldn't > have it any other way! > > I always knew that most people drop TM after practicing it. At the DC > center we got a big wake-up call when we tried to contact the 10,000 > people who had been initiated at the center. I don't remember the > numbers but it shocked us at the time. How could so many people drop > the practice if transcending was all that? Posting on this group has > made me wonder how many people keep up with the sidhi program. Even > that level of interaction doesn't seem to be self-evidently positive > enough to keep people doing it. > > So we are all left with our personal choices. People on this group > are pretty entertaining. Most of the people I seem to get along with > best have moved on from TM. The TM link is just a common bond so we > can goof on the movement a little and remember how into we were. For > the people who have continued to enjoy the practice, please don't take > my words of my experience as insulting to your own. I know how > limited my view of what you may need in your life is. If you enjoy > flying, I'm glad you found something in this world to enjoy. I hope > you can see beyond the fact that I have left it behind. > > TM was an amazing ride, and although in a perfect world, I might not > want to have hung with it so long, I value my experiences from my > past. I am not a spiritual person so my analysis has no bearing on > people who continue on a path of self or God realization. That is a > goal that I understand and respect, but I know it is not for me. > > Thanks for asking a question that helped me reflect on this. I would > like to hear your experiences if you wouldn't mind sharing them. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > One thing I noticed that was interesting about this thread on yogic > > flying was that apart from Dave - correct me if I am wrong, as I > > didn't read all - but all of the anti-TM'rs (apart from Vaj who hasn't > > learned TM or yogic flying) said they had good experiences of yogic > > flying and that the whole 'levitation' part was unimportnant. > > > > Interesting phenomena: The first time I've seen a thread here where > > all the yogic flyers (wether 'for' or 'against' TMO) agree that it was > > a good thing and that they would not have missed the chance to learn > > it. > > > > Correct me if I am wrong please. > > > > OffWorld > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
