Thanks for being opened minded about my experiences. If the sidhis still have value for you, more power to you. It seems like the first few are working for you from the quality of your post! Enjoying the sidhis is something I can relate to also.
--- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the honest answer. I agree with much of what you say, > although I am still enjoying the siddhis. For me it was/is the > greatest experience, very powerful, but not for everyone, and i > understand why. You are right, it does not produce miracle change in > life, but I still think it is good overall. Thanks for that answer. > I relate a lot to what you said, but sidhis are still the most > amazing thing I have ever done, but that doesn't mean it is for > everyone. > > OffWorld > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > I enjoyed the experience of flying for the ten years I did it, and > TM > > for 15 years. Once I shifted my view of its value, I never desired > > the experience again. I think the experience's value is not as > > "self-evident" as some claim. Maybe the belief system has to > support > > it. Otherwise it just seems odd, and not an experience I would seek > > out these days. As far as it benefit, that I no longer buy. I > think > > it is sort of a mini epileptic fit. Not too dangerous probably, > but > > not the greatest experience ever. I don't see people who have > kept > > it up as special in any way I can detect. By now it really should > > have produced more of the claimed benefits in people practicing so > > long. In the old days we would joke that without TM a person > might be > > even worse! That claim is getting hollower and hollower each > decade. > > > > As far as transcending goes, I think that experience is also very > > overrated as a valuable experience. Relaxation seems necessary in > my > > life in much smaller doses now that I don't do a program. The > biggest > > wellbeing booster for me is exercise. That experience seems to > give > > me all the mental clarity I was seeking with TM with the added > benefit > > of giving me much more energy. All that eyes closed time of the > > program seems to sap people's energy despite the claims. I don't > hang > > out with anyone who needs a nap in the afternoon. (anyone with kids > > excluded!) It is just something that people get used to I think. It > > took me a few days to get over the need for program, then I just > never > > considered the need for more rest after sleeping, or in the > afternoon. > > There are too many activities that give me joy and help me grow. > I > > have become the busy businessman of the checking notes and wouldn't > > have it any other way! > > > > I always knew that most people drop TM after practicing it. At > the DC > > center we got a big wake-up call when we tried to contact the > 10,000 > > people who had been initiated at the center. I don't remember the > > numbers but it shocked us at the time. How could so many people > drop > > the practice if transcending was all that? Posting on this group > has > > made me wonder how many people keep up with the sidhi program. > Even > > that level of interaction doesn't seem to be self-evidently > positive > > enough to keep people doing it. > > > > So we are all left with our personal choices. People on this group > > are pretty entertaining. Most of the people I seem to get along > with > > best have moved on from TM. The TM link is just a common bond so > we > > can goof on the movement a little and remember how into we were. > For > > the people who have continued to enjoy the practice, please don't > take > > my words of my experience as insulting to your own. I know how > > limited my view of what you may need in your life is. If you enjoy > > flying, I'm glad you found something in this world to enjoy. I > hope > > you can see beyond the fact that I have left it behind. > > > > TM was an amazing ride, and although in a perfect world, I might > not > > want to have hung with it so long, I value my experiences from my > > past. I am not a spiritual person so my analysis has no bearing on > > people who continue on a path of self or God realization. That is > a > > goal that I understand and respect, but I know it is not for me. > > > > Thanks for asking a question that helped me reflect on this. I > would > > like to hear your experiences if you wouldn't mind sharing them. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > One thing I noticed that was interesting about this thread on > yogic > > > flying was that apart from Dave - correct me if I am wrong, as I > > > didn't read all - but all of the anti-TM'rs (apart from Vaj who > hasn't > > > learned TM or yogic flying) said they had good experiences of > yogic > > > flying and that the whole 'levitation' part was unimportnant. > > > > > > Interesting phenomena: The first time I've seen a thread here > where > > > all the yogic flyers (wether 'for' or 'against' TMO) agree that > it was > > > a good thing and that they would not have missed the chance to > learn > > > it. > > > > > > Correct me if I am wrong please. > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! 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