--- In [email protected], johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" <premanandpaul@> > wrote: > > > > The trouble with convenience processed foods is they all too often > > have a lot of the nutrients taken out of them, right? Well that's > > what you seem to be saying about convenience meditation, isn't it, > > that the ingredient that one needs for full health is not there? You > > might well be on to something, perhaps you could suggest how one > > might re-introduce the missing vitamins, so to speak? > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "mrsatva" <mrsatva@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) > > and > > > tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I > > wonder > > > why none of his students/followers got enlightened and the majority > > > stopped practising because they didn't get anything good from it ? I > > > have two ideas about it and would like to hear (read) your opinion > > > about them: > > > > > > 1. In his attempt to make the teaching digestible for everyone > > he took > > > out the devotional part with maybe accentual for spiritual growth > > > > > > 2. Because the spiritual teaching has been in the hand and minds > > of > > > monks for centuries it got a form witch simply doesn't work for non > > > (traditional) monks. A bit like the group conciseness MMY wants to > > use > > > to group effects. > > > > > > TM cuts you of from your emotions. Maybe as a result of 2. But the > > > emotions are accentual for spiritual growth (1.) ?!? > > > > > > > I think the element which is missing in many is the intention to > surrender to the highest manifest as well as transcendent. For most > westerners TM is more a self improvement than a devotion. For Indians > the mantras are the energies of their Ishtadevatas or form of God. > This is not true for westerners who have a different conceptual way of > understanding God. This of course does not mean that westerners can't > do TM with the intention to surrender in devotion but many do it out > of ego rather than as a means of letting go of ego. >
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