--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:38 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > It's the dfference between relative and absolute, played out > > neurologically within the brain. > > OR, the experience of this within the brain, leads one to describe > > the world in these terms. > > Either way, its radically different than the high concentration > > Buddhist meditation findings > > that Vaj likes to tout here. > > Actually Vaj has never "touted" any meditation technique here that > uses "high concentration". As Dana Sawyer pointed out in some > previous quotes shared here: meditators using these techniques are > able to transcend easier, longer and more frequently.
Dana does EEG/fMRI research on meditators? This is > accomplished by teaching students to find their own unique balance > between subtle effort and no effort. Eventually meditation become > totally (and truly) effortless: one sits, decides how long, and > simply goes into samadhi/shamatha for the entire session! Once one > can sustain transcendence for longer periods of time (IME over about > 10 minutes) one can also decide to practice non-dual forms of > meditation, which unlike what you describe where the senses disengage > from objects and withdraw (or "retire"/transcend) and separate inner > and outer into a dualistic divide--one can instead cultivate unity > consciousness and work with methods which leave the senses "open". > And this is the natural sequence in learning meditation: going from > meditation requiring "supports" (e.g. a mantra) to no support. > Where's the research? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
