--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <groups@> 
> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > The problem as I see it is that those running the movement have 
> no 
> > > choice but to adhere to the following logic:
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Maharishi is enlightened.
> > > > 2. Therefore, everything he thinks and says expresses the 
> truth, 
> > > > even though I and the world at large may not understand it.
> > > > 3. Therefore, I should stay in tune with his thinking (as I am 
> > > > told to do).
> > <snip> 
> > > I agree that Maharishi is enlightened, however about five years  
> > > after I started TM I read his commentary on the BG, chaps. 1-6 
> and 
> > > his SBAL books, and in there he clearly says directly that in 
> order 
> > > to gain enlightenment most efficiently for ourselves we should 
> do 
> > > *our* own dharma, although someone else's may seem very 
> attractive.
> > 
> > Not only that, but the notion that "everything he
> > thinks and says expresses the truth" is not at all
> > consistent with his teaching, if by "truth" you mean
> > *relative* truth, at least as I understand him.
> > 
> > He's quite explicit in his Gita commentary that the
> > enlightened person's actions are what Nature "wants,"
> > but that the person doesn't necessarily grasp the
> > *reason* why Nature "wants" him to do or say this or
> > that; it's just automatic and spontaneous.
> 
> 
> Mark David Chapman described his experience of shooting John Lennon 
> as one where he was watching what he was doing as a separate entity 
> from himself.

Derealization, a well-defined psychiatric disorder, oftimes due to childhood 
trauma which 
apparently can cause measureable brain dysfunction, which coincidentally is 
radically 
different than the brain function of someone in the TM witnessing state.

The witnessing-like phenomenon reported by the derealized person may SOUND like 
TM 
witnessing, but it apparently is not the same physical state or at least, the 
EEG studies 
show radically different states: the depersonalization people often show a 
marked 
imbalance of activity between the right and left hemispheres with the 
intellectual side 
dominating way more than normal, because the other side shows a lack of 
emotional/
intuitive development. 

Coincidentally, long-term practitioners of certain meditation techniques also 
report 
witnessing and they show the same dominance imballance, although the emotional/
intuitive side of the brain is not dysfunctional --the intellectual side is 
merely hyperactive.








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