I'm not sure Doug. As a start, loose the crowns and robes (it didn't
work the first time, historically), stop suing or trying to re-
certify
the teachers. Start teaching TM for an honest price.... Stop hiding
all the finances. Stop trying to accumulate property by any means. 
The
TMO has lost the good will of so many and become untrustworthy....

JohnY


Yes, these things in time would be helpful and nothing will happen 
unless they are done.  Transparency keeps coming up at the problem.  
The first thing the accreditation team recently coached the 
Maharishi School for the Age of Enlightenment to do was to audit all 
parts of the school and report the audit to everyone.  When hell 
freezes over is likely what the administrators and MMY think of 
course.

The great quote recently is MMY to one of Mother Olsen's daughter's 
who was advising that the fees for  basic meditation should be 
reduced,  MMY's response accurately was, "Don't tell me how to run 
my business"  Last contact and lost contact in that.

As Hagelin said succinctly in a public meeting with TSR here, we got 
the best movement and the best guidelines we got now.  Nothing is 
going to change evidently until after MMY.  Wait until then for the 
best hope in all of this.

Does that mean that MMY can't die fast enough to git out of the 
way?  It is a sad deal for something that was so hopeful.

Jai Guru Dev,

-Doug in FF





--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5"
> <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> >
> > Reconciling the past,
> > 
> > >how likely is it that
> > > they'd
> > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that 
many
> > > willing
> > > > > to go.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Sal
> > 
> > 
> > JohnY writes,
> > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's 
and 
> > the
> > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000
> > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating.
> > 
> > 
> > Doug writing:
> > Yes, round numbers a million TM meditators taught in the US,  
with 
> > some tens of thousands of TM teachers taught, some tens of 
thousands 
> > people taught the TM0-sidhis; and a few hundreds show up when 
> > called. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974
> > 
> > 
> > Reconciling the numbers, what would the TMOrg need do, to 
reconcile 
> > with its people?  It had got pretty ugly in recent years, what 
could 
> > the elements of a lasting peace and reconciliation for the TMorg 
be 
> > with its meditators? 
> > 
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev,
> > -Doug in FF
> > 
>   I'm not sure Doug. As a start, loose the crowns and robes (it 
didn't
> work the first time, historically), stop suing or trying to 
recertify
> the teachers. Start teaching TM for an honest price.... Stop hiding
> all the finances. Stop trying to accumulate property by any means. 
The
> TMO  has lost the good will of so many and become 
untrustworthy.... 
> 
> JohnY
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <jyouells@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" 
<babajii_99@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" 
<jyouells@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine 
> > <salsunshine@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff.  And 
> > seeing 
> > > > as how 
> > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is 
it 
> > that 
> > > > they'd 
> > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be 
that 
> > many 
> > > > willing 
> > > > > > to go.)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sal
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? 
Why 
> > even
> > > > > bother to ask? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > JohnY 
> > > > 
> > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer;
> > > > If you never ask, you'll never know...
> > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always 
superior to 
> > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer...
> > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India?
> > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba?
> > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome?
> > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask...
> > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling;
> > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate;
> > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question:
> > > > Very Sad!!!
> > > >
> > > 
> > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's 
and 
> > the
> > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 
27,000
> > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually 
more 
> > than I
> > > expected....
> > > 
> > > JohnY
> > >
> > ,
> >
>






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