--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], gerbal88 <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > Hi, Bill -- TM is based on two profoundly subtle deceptions, 
that 
> > > > the mantra and the method of using the mantra enables one to 
> > > > experience the absolute or source of thought.
> > > 
> > > (Note that gerbal never goes on to explain why
> > > he says "the mantra enables one to experience the
> > > absolute or source of thought."
> > 
> > Should be: "why he says 'the mantra enables one to
> > experience the absolute or source of thought' *is a
> > deception*."
> >
> 
> Of course, the latest research explains from a physiological point 
of view, why 
> "experience" and "transcendental consciousness" are a contradiction 
in terms, but 
> language no longer applies in this situation so this is inevitable.

Right, "experience" and 'TC" are contradictory only in a 
philosophical nit-picky sense.  Zen Masters simply state that sitting 
in meditation is conducive to Enlightenment, but don't dwell on 
useless philosophical speculations on how one can attain That which 
everything already is.
 Such arguments are like trying to figure out typical paradoxes such 
as having a card upon which is written on both sides: "The statement 
on the other side of this card is false".  It's a paradox.  Leave it 
at that.
>






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