--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi G,
> 
> I think you are on to something with his contempt for his own
> followers.  Have you seen the comparison of the narcissistic
> personality disorder and Indian Gurus, mostly focused on Rajaneesh?

No, but Mahesh is incredibly narcissistic: his name on everything, 
more and more things. The mind does, as he so cunningly informed us, 
go in the direction of more and more.

Check the PDF Stripping the Gurus in the MishMash Effect I posted in 
the TMO the Odd Side Files.
 
> It was in Free Inquiry in the late 80's.  The author  applied the  
DSM
> III standards to a few gurus and it really explained a lot for me. 
> How they operate so far outside the normal constraints of reciprocal
> society and can exploit people because they have contempt for them.

Certainly sounds like the Mahesh I watched and watched. 

> Did you ever see the Purusha play that he made up where he had the
> Purusha dressed up like club kid transvestites?

No, sounds revolting.

> That was really off
> the charts!  He had them dressed like the Indian actors you describe
> acting out the Ramayana and Mahabharata that I catch on the Indian
> cable channel occasionally. 

I still have the photos of me dressed up like the various personages 
in the "holy tradition". Hari, Mahesh's cook, helped me do the sari 
type drapery. I did it for Susan Shumsky who was going to make a 
painting of the HT for Mahesh. She was an accomplished 
watercolourist. Hers is certainly NOT the painting we see behind 
Mahesh in Vlodrop.

> Your point about the money is well taken.  Since he moved into real
> estate as the main wealth producer it became important to have a 
core
> of followers who would do anything for him as his properties
> appreciated.  So pushing them to accept Bob Lapinto, stock broker as
> DC Raja is part of the testing the limits game.  He hasn't found any
> limits yet has he?

I think that's part of the joke: testing the limits, pushing the 
envelope. 

How he does it is part of the theroy I am trying to work out The TM 
Effect. You see smidgens of it in Beacon Light. He must have been 
very familiar with the dissociative effects of japa because he talked 
about it at my TTC. He said the mind just gets exhausted and drops 
into the transcendent. Bullshit. It's what he later discovered he 
could do with rounding: you experienced so much 
daydreaming/dissociative separation from yourself (to be redundant 
about the whole thing) that you'd accept anything as truth, gospel, 
prime directive if he said it. 

The Beatle who said "... you're so cosmic" certainly was onto 
something. Just like Mahesh said again and again at my TTC: the actor 
can play god better than god. -- He could do the cosmic thing like 
nobody's business and it feathered his nest, ripped off the faithful, 
sent many into debt out of which they will never get. All for 
what? "Forgive my little joke on thee and go to hell."


> --- In [email protected], gerbal88 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sigh. The ME is used to explain why MMY isn't trying to get 
massive
> > > numbers of
> > > people to
> > > learn TM, and the Raja thing certainly turns people off and MMY 
knows
> > > this.
> > > 
> > > I find it amazing how people will twist reality to fit their 
need to
> > > find flaws.
> > > 
> > > He isn't even accomplishing the ME numbers is he? 
> > 
> > Hi, Curtis -- I doubt Mahesh cares what he is doing. He wanted 
massive 
> > numbers initiated because he got half the take. Which was the 
point of 
> > creating massive numbers of initiators in from 71-73. He doesn't 
need 
> > the money any more. The ME crap is just his joke on all those who 
are 
> > witless enough to take him seriously. He's famously known for 
making 
> > fun of the people who worship him.
> > 
> > The Raja thing just has to be a joke. Yesterday I caught an 
Indian 
> > traditional movie with Rajas and such wearing gold crowns and 
tramping 
> > about with bows and arrows. Hillarious, but sort of unwatchable. -
- 
> > Mahesh's Rajas, like King Tony is just a joke: see what I can do! 
See 
> > how I can make you accept anything I do!
> > 
> > I suspect he thinks of the faithful as "you bastards".
> > 
> > There is, really, an ME effect, of course: sore butts, arthritic 
hips, 
> > back problems, flat affect, willingness to accept the ridiculous 
and 
> > even pay money for it, and so one. 
> > 
> > Dear God, forgive my little joke on Thee
> > And I will forgive Thy great big one on me.
> > 
> > And Robert Frost didn't even know Mahesh!
> >
>






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