--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "What you are putting forth basically means > > > the end of any and all honest communication." > > > > Wow, you hit that one out of the park Sal. High five. > > What would have taken me pages summed up in one short > > phrase. > > I'm going to spend a few more words (if not pages) > on this, because I suspect a lot of folks here > still don't get the exact mechanics of this partic- > ular dodge. Since a couple of people here use it > often, I think it's worth explaining *how* they > use it. > > Remember what I said in recent posts about those > who have adopted the True Believer mentality being > actually *afraid* to put their own doubts about and > lack of belief in the TM dogma into words? This dodge > is one way that they avoid having to do so. > > How it works is, when someone says something that > is contrary to the TM dogma, or that challenges it, > the people who use this dodge regularly (neither > of them TM teachers) reply using pretty much the > exact argument that we who are TM teachers were > taught to use in this situation. It takes the > form, "Well, MMY says..." or "The TMO says..." or > "Scientific experiment X says..." And whatever > form it takes, what they say just "happens" to > refutes the point that is contrary to the dogma, > or the criticism. > > But (and here's the brilliant part), it refutes > it in a completely spineless way. The persons using > this particular dodge never have to say what *they* > believe about the point under discussion. If someone > comes back in response to the dodge and claims that > they are just parroting the TM party line (which, > of course, they are by "quoting" it), they can say, > "Hey! *I* didn't say that. Maharishi/Hagelin/the TMO/ > whoever said that." > > The dodge is a way to do exactly what they've > been taught to do -- protect the TM dogma and ideas > at any cost -- without *appearing* to do so. When > challenged, they always have the "out" of claiming, > "Hey! I was just quoting someone else...what makes > you think that's what *I* believe?" > > Think I'm off base? Watch, next time this dodge > is used here and challenged, and notice that the > person who uses it almost *never* says what he or > she really believes. They'll pretend to get all > uptight about people "mistakenly" assuming that > what they said is what *they* believe, pretend to > fly into a snit over it, and then somehow in all > the furor that they've stirred up, somehow "forget" > to say what it is they really believe.
Thanks, Turquoise B, for your posts. I don't think I totally agree with every word you say, but I like the way you say it and it gives me pause to consider. I was about to give up on FFL, but someone sent me a note saying you had returned from holiday and had a lot to say. Thanks to you and Sal and a few others, I think there might be hope for sorthing through the huge pile of crap Mahesh sold us and winnowing out the something of value. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
