--- In [email protected], gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > For me, if I just took MMY's personality and surface
> > > behavior I'd have dismissed MMY and the TMO sometime
> > > in the late 70's. However I have been profoundly
> > > impacted by MMY's techniques and his presence. I
> > > experience MMY as radiating an all consuming energy of
> > > the Transcendent. He is incredibly powerful. If I did
> > > not experience him as this "Blazing Brahman" his
> > > surface behavior would have turned me off decades ago.
> > > I find SSRS to be radiating this same energy; an
> > > infinite vastness. I didn't experience SSRS like this
> > > until after two years of interacting wityh him. Then
> > > one day: POW! 
> > 
> > I've heard people on FFL say this often over
> > the last year, and noticed that no one ever
> > asks them the obvious question. That is,
> > why do you think that it is *Maharishi's*
> > "presence" or SSRS's "presence" that you're
> > perceiving? 
> > 
> > It sounds more likely to me that what you 
> > and other folks like Jim are experiencing 
> > is your *own* energy on a good day, and 
> > mistaking it for Maharishi's or SSRS's.
> 
> To be sure, we are aware of our own energies and often project 
them 
> onto what we feel we like or dislike. 
> 
> I got to spend a lot of time around Mahesh. Later, after TM, I 
worked 
> with a few people who were certified sociopathic individuals. It 
was 
> like being around Mahesh. 
> 
> The energy of the sociopathic type invades your space, ignores 
> your "boundaries" (much like Judy is so often want to do in an 
effort 
> to squelch critical thought about the realities of Mahesh and his 
> delusional thinking that she'd rather not have to face), pushes 
our 
> buttons, pulls your strings and just generally plays with your 
head.
> 
> Mahesh, like many another sociopathic type enjoyed manipulating 
> others. Mahesh enjoyed it on a grand scale because he could. No 
one 
> called his bluff and was still there the next day to do it again. 
> Anyone who seemed to clever, too intelligent, too insightful was 
sent 
> on some mission of no return.
>
Boy, you got royally f*cked over by Mahesh, huh? Why not just let go 
of it, much as Turquoise advocates for the [unidentified] TBs here?

Or do you get a payoff from feeling this way?






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