--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" <babajii_99@> > wrote: > > > > From reading between the lines, it just seems to me that > > you have some kind of hatred towards Maharishi, some > > jealousy or envy maybe? I don't know. > > Is your +agenda+ just to diss Maharishi, or to crucify him, > > for all to see. > > I'm just not sure where you first started feeling so much > > animosity toward him. > > Am I +wrong+ about the way you feel toward him? > > Yes, you are wrong about the way I feel towards > Maharishi, and you're starting to sound like an > insane cult fanatic to boot. :-) > > I think you should go back and re-read the two > posts you are commenting on above. In them I > said absolutely NOTHING negative about Maharishi. > Not one word, not one line.
Think maybe Robert is including in his comments some of the many posts in which Barry *has* said negative things about MMY? Also note what Barry chooses to overlook, that Robert said he was "reading between the lines." Barry's quite skilled at giving himself "plausible deniability" in the way he words his criticisms. That way, when someone sees through the veneer of compassion and neutrality in which he cloaks them, Barry can label the person a "cult fanatic." > All that I did say was that I don't believe he > is enlightened, and then I explained why. > > Somehow, in your mind, "reading between the lines," > that became "hatred," "jealousy," "envy," an attempt > to diss him, and/or an attempt to "crucify" him. I'd guess it's stuff like this, where Barry hasn't laid onr *quite* enough veneer to disguise his feelings, that Robert has in mind (just from Barry's posts since he's been back): ----- "I *do* believe that he went against the direct advice of his own teacher in making this decision to teach, and at his own peril. Spiritual teaching is a perilous task; there are pitfalls and dangers in it, especially for those who still have a strong ego that would be easy prey for these pitfalls and dangers. *That* is what I believe that Guru Dev had in mind when he told Maharishi not to teach, and to follow his *own* example and spend his time in meditation, far away from the teaching process.... I think he had Maharishi's best interests in mind when he made the suggestion that he *not* teach; he must have known that Maharishi was not *ready* to teach, and *would* fall victim to the pitfalls and dangers that awaited him if he chose that path. And I believe that Maharishi did, in fact, fall prey to them." ----- "It's *Maharishi* who has the hangup about 'loyalty,' and who views anyone who isn't completely 'faithful' to him forever as weak and a failure, or an actual enemy. It's *Maharishi's* mindset we see in the words of the TBs, spoken by people who don't even know that the mindset they're expressing is not their own. "And interestingly, I think the reason Maharishi feels this way is that he's doing the same thing the TBs on FFL and elsewhere in the TMO are doing, projecting his own internal dis-ease outwards. "IMO Maharishi feels 'betrayed' by those who don't do everything he says because *he* didn't do what Guru Dev told him to do. He was told to go off and meditate, and *not* to teach, and he did the opposite. I honestly think that inwardly he feels that he betrayed his teacher, and that these feelings come to the surface for him whenever someone 'betrays' him by not doing exactly what *he* tells them to do. As with the TBs he's trained to think like him, when this happens Maharishi blames the person who has made him feel this way, and often does his best to demonize them for leaving, or for not following his advice as if it were the word of God. But what I think he's really angry at them for is making *him* feel emotions he doesn't like to experience. "What he's feeling when his students don't do what he tells them to do is his own karma. It's just so sad that he's never been able to realize that. ----- "How difficult is it to run an organization that only consists of a couple of thousand people in an ethical manner? If it had been run that way all along -- as Rick says so well, if Maharishi had actually walked his talk -- the enormous inter- national organization sparaig imagines and is trying to use as an excuse for inefficient and unethical behavior might still actually exist." ----- Naw, no attempts to disrespect MMY in any of this, is there? Nothing negative, not one word, not one line, right? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
