--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" <premanandpaul@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I obtained a copy of these satsangs more than thirty years ago, 
> > and 
> > have not posted quotations of Guru Dev speaking on this subject. 
> > However, Frank Lotz seemed to be parading his devotion to his 
> > 'Guru-
> > jie' so I responded by doing a little Hindi translation work.
> > So, you can thank Frank.
> 
> Thanks Frank.
> I know Frank from past TM years, and if that helps you, can assure
> you, that he won't harm you, or send you a letter bomb. He easily 
> gets
> heated, always was so. He has done fist fights when provoked, so it
> may not be a good idea to stand in front of his house and ring the
> bell, and say 'Fuck Maha..'. ;-)
> I myself was threatened here not too long ago by one of our more
> outspoken members here with the words: 'Fuck you and die' and I am
> still very much alive ;-)

Since I can be pretty certain that our resident
No-that's-not-what-was-said-this-is-what-was-
really-what-was-said expert is not likely to 
come running in to correct this particular 
piece of misinformation :-), I will.

What was actually said (and I know because I
said it) was, "Fuck off and die."  "Off," dude,
not "you." There's a difference.

"Fuck off and die" is not really a threat, Michael
It's a common form of dismissal, along the lines
of, "Go forth and multiply elsewhere, somewhere 
they actually take people like you seriously."

:-)  :-)  :-)

Michael, if you had misquoted something that 
the aforementioned "expert" had said this
egregiously, you *know* how she would have 
reacted. She would have questioned your motives, 
accused you of having an anti-somethingorother
agenda, and called you a LIAR twelve ways to 
Sunday. 

I'll merely suggest 1) that English is not your
native language, and 2) that you tend to over-
react and get a little hysterical and show your
girlyman side when someone doesn't take you 
seriously. 

As for the phrase itself, I hate to be the one 
to have to break it to you, dude, but you really 
*are* going to die. All of us are, someday. 

So another way of looking at someone telling you 
to "fuck off and die" is as a *positive* sugges-
tion -- they're sending you on your way with the
wish that you'll get a good roll in the hay in 
before you croak.

:-)  :-)  :-)







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