--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > He took GD's advice for himself... > > > > Uh, excuse me...it seems to me that Maharishi did > > the *opposite* of taking Guru Dev's advice. According > > to witnesses, that advice, given directly to Maharishi > > in public while Guru Dev was alive, was that he should > > *not* teach. Yet within a few years of Guru Dev's death, > > there he was teaching. That doesn't strike me as > > following one's teacher's advice. > > I was talking about the advice of the vision.
No, you are talking about the advice of the *supposed* vision. There has never been, nor will there ever be, any evidence that such a vision ever happened. I'm just making this point because you seem to believe that because you believe in this "vision" it's a done deal, and that it really happened. I make no such assumption. I spent 14 years in the TM movement with- out hearing *any* reference to such a vision before you wrote about it a couple of posts ago. > He took this advice for himself and not for others. If it happened. Again, I've never heard such a story in all my years. If I had, unlike you I probably wouldn't have believed it. Nitpick all you want about the so-called "differences" you perceive between one person claiming to have had a vision and another. Bottom line is that anyone can claim anything they bloody well want to about "visions," and there is nothing that *anyone* can *ever* do to prove them either true or false. It's ALL a matter of belief. In this particular case, you seem to have heard and chosen to believe a rumor THAT IS NOT EVEN MOVEMENT DOGMA. I never heard such a story, and I'd be willing to believe that many others here haven't, either. You did hear such a story, from somewhere, and because you're just a bowl of mush, bhakti-speaking, you chose to believe it. As I said, I probably wouldn't have. <snip> > When he [MMY] started in Kerala, he was surrounded by > orthodox Brahmins, and it seems he easily convinced them. He convinced you, and all you did was hear a rumor that isn't even an established part of the TM teachings. :-) <snip> > If there is anything like 'good' or 'bad' at all. My point is: its > always a personal thing. Why bother about the personal decision of > others, and try to convince them they were wrong, Barry? We've gone down this road before. I am NOT trying to convince you of anything. That's just how you *interpret* hearing ideas other than your own, as if the person who has those other ideas is trying to convince you of them. They're not. You're just being a paranoid cultist, that's all. :-) I leave you to be paranoid all by yourself, and to believe any rumors you hear. Go forth and multiply. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
