--- In [email protected], "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > Actually--as with TM where an effort must be taken to sit > down to meditate and close eyes, maintain mindfullness to > return to mantra, etc., etc.
The first "effort"--sitting down and closing the eyes--is irrelevant in this context. The second--"maintain mindfulness to return to mantra"--doesn't exist in TM, done properly. And who the heck knows what "etc., etc." refers to here. > Any meditation technique that relies on a object > of meditation, a mantra, the breath, etc. will by > it's very nature have some subtle effort (as Mahesh > acknowledged at Estes Park in regard to TM).* Of course, it's never been established that what he said at Estes Park ever "acknowledged" any such thing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
