--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend"
> > <jstein@> wrote:
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> > > --- In [email protected], hermandan0
> > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being
> > argumentative, but
> > > > just to relate my experience. I became a teacher
> > much later than all
> > > > of you pioneers, so I cannot speak to what you
> > might have been told
> > > > on your courses.
> > > 
> > > What I, as a student, heard from TM teachers
> > > conforms precisely to your description of what
> > > you were told to teach.
> > >
> > 
> > Eeven allowing for Barry coming from a different era
> > (I learned in 73), the business about 
> > not teaching unless the student kneels isn't
> > something that even makes sense. 
> > 
> > 
> > When I went back to MUM/MIU in the mid-80's for a
> > course, someone from Spielberg's 
> > (Lucas's?) studio had brought an experimental 3D
> > video camera and wanted to film the 
> > Puja for MMY. They passed out flowers and started
> > filming. I bowed my head respectfully 
> > with hands in the namaste form and then noticed that
> > everyone else in the entire room--
> > with no exceptions (about 2000+ people since it was
> > on oe of the larger courses)-- had 
> > fully kowtowed with head to floor. I glanced all the
> > way around the room, threw my arms 
> > up at the ceiling dramatically and shrugged and
> > knelt down...
> > 
> > ..the next day, at another meeting,  they passed the
> > flowers around to everyone again, 
> > explaining that due to a "camera glitch" they needed
> > to refilm part of the Puja. They 
> > instructed us all to "stand respectfully" as they
> > did the retake.
> > 
> > I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was
> > ever instructed to require his/her 
> > students to kneel or they wouldn't be taught, not
> > even the Indian ones teaching in India.
> 
> I became a teacher in '73 and it was irrelevant
> whether the student stood, kneeled or laughed at that
> end of the puja.

I have initiated some Indian to TM. After the Puja I was standing, 
and they were kneeling.
Ingegerd
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