--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 
> If people don't want me here, just post that comment here on this 
> thread and if enough people do so, I'll be happy to leave.

Thats your perogative to take an all or nothing approach.  But, of
course, my suggestion was that posters try to keep within 10% of total
posts. Otherwise to take a voluntary "time out" -- to regroup and
reduce the urge for their compulsive jag -- and to form new habits, or
if they are too compulsive to do so, an auto-trigger to give them such
a rest.

My premise is that when thoughtful posters sees pages and pages of
Spraig/Judy/Shemp posts, they just slap their forehead and go away.
Massive compulsive, drivel-prone, anger-spewing, peak posters drive
away thoughtful posters.

I susggest the following: 

* If over the next week, 10 people stand up and say they don't like
this majority of (peak) posts by three posters, and ask to you to
attempt to limit it to 10% each (aka "the kindely request"), then will
you earnestly try to do so?  

* Same for Judy and Sparaig -- and others as they may arise over time.

* If you are unable to control your urges to 10% of posts, will you
agree to "time-outs" aka temporary suspensions to allow you time to
regroup?. Lets say one week for the first time, two weeks for the
second and subsequent times.

If you (Shemp), Judy and Sparaig agree to this (in the next day or
so), I will agree to the following:

If 10 people don't stand up a make "the kindly request", I will leave
FFL. Thus illustrating that posters are driven away by a majority of
posts by three people --  often drivel, anal-detailedness going
nowhere, and ager vents, etc  IMO.

I have participated regularly on FFL for four years. I no longer care
to if I have to wade through such majority sludge as cited above. If
nine others stand up make the "kindly request", then I think FFL can
regain its health, vibrancy and friendly supportive environment of the
past. 

If not, i think the trend, 40% ===> 60% ====> ?, of posts by a few
posters will continue as thoughtful posters drop out of the sludge,
and the compulsive sludgers contine to jag on. 

Thus: 

I invite all posters to make the "the kindely request": 
"I don't like the majority of FFL (peak) posts being made by only
three posters, and kindly ask to them to attempt to limit it to 10% each.

Separate from the above, I invite all posters to consider taking a
"greener-pastures" pledge":

If 

i) Judy, Sparaig and Shemp agree to the earnestly try to each limit
posts to 10% of total, if 10 people take make the "kindly request.  

And if they are unable to do so , they agree to "time-outs" -- one
week for the first time, two weeks for the second and subsequent
times, and 

ii) 10 FFL memebers as a whole don't support this initiative, that is,
less than 10 make the "kindly request" within a week of i) occurring,

then the member state their intention to move on to forums that are
less clogged with posts by a small minority --- posts which often have
a drivel, venting, or nonrespective content. 












If several cycles of that doesn't work, I suggest that anyone can pull
the stats and if someone is above 10% for a one-day or greater period,
they are given a "time-out" for two weeks. Time-outs work for kids,
and are hardly abusive. They help inform and provide feedback to
people to help them "get a grip". For compulsive, rude, or obnoxious
for whom repeated group consensus to "cool it' don't have an effect,
then "time-outs" may be worth a try.

I don't prefer the above time-outs. I prefer that 10 people stand up
and say that they are sick of three people posting 50% or so of posts
at peak times and ask them to please be become conscious of their
effect of driving others away.

Or we just start a new group, and don't give them the address. :)

By the way, your stats are off.
In Sept there have been 2841 posts. 130 by me. 4.5%. 6 a day.

I like your idea of shooting for an average of 4. Some days, a bit
more, some days a bit less.









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