--- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes and people also filter out this stuff out and do just 
> go because they have an experience with the spiritual 
> practice of it that is not necessarily the TMorg or MMY 
> but is a lot of people meditating in spiritual practice 
> together.  

Dude...watch your step! You have just uttered the
Ultimate Heresy. OF COURSE the reason that people
feel a "high" from doing their TM-Sidhi program 
together is because they're doing that particular
TM (insert TM trademark sign here) technique together. 

It couldn't *possibly* have anything to do with what 
the rest of the spiritual world thinks is happening 
in such a situation -- a group of people getting 
together to practice pretty much ANY technique of 
meditation/self discovery and getting a buzz from
the increased number of practitioners.  :-)

> In going or joining at that level it becomes sort of a 
> holding of the nose or going with blinders set 
> to not let themselves be bothered by it so much.  

LOL. That image got me laughing. Remember when the
TM sidhis were new and people started trying to 
market things to all these new buttbouncers? There
were the foam pads that strapped to your butt so
you could bounce anywhere, and special buttbouncing
fashions.  Well, the next level of marketing will
include the Sattvic Nose Clamp (to keep out the
bad odor of the TMO while buttbouncing), and the
Bliss Blinders (to keep you from noticing that you're 
buttbouncing in the same room with people you'd be 
embarrassed to be seen with back in real life.  :-)  
 
> However what you are saying evidently has a lot of merit 
> in the whole story of how it has gone here in FF for MMY 
> and the TMorg.  What is the number, 27K governors or 
> tm-sidhas were taught?  About a million TM meditators 
> taught in North America?  Now only some few hundreds 
> rally at the call to come back?  

I think that's why it's so timely that geezerfreak
reposted that excerpt from The Guru Papers. It says
it all. There is an "expansion" phase of spiritual
groups. Those who are attracted to the group during
that phase have a predilection that drives them to
help to teach the group's techniques to others, to
*share* the good things that they've learned.

Then the inevitable "contraction" phase of the group
begins to happen, in which the group basically stops
expanding and spends all its energy trying to convince
the remaining members how special they are and how
dangerous the outside world is. This second phase is
all about *hoarding* the good things they've learned,
not sharing them. 

The people who are drawn to a spiritual group that has 
entered this phase are NOT the same ones who were drawn 
to it during its expansion phase. The contraction phase 
appeals to those who have grown tired (of lecturing and 
postering and dealing with "lesser evolved" people by 
teaching), and/or who have developed a slightly paranoid 
fear of the "outside world" and desire to live in a 
sheltered space surrounded only by people who think
the same way they do, and/or people who have bought
into the the group's "You are the chosen people"
elitism propaganda. 

What I'm suggesting is that it's completely NATURAL 
that the folks who were attracted to the early days
of the TMO (during its expansion phase) would be
completely turned off by its constraction phase. 
They were drawn to a movement that wanted to help
the world as a whole, and now they are confronted
by a movement that only wants to help itself, and
those "chosen people" that still cling to it.

> Maharishi wants input as to why the troubles getting people 
> to come back to the domes?

As I pointed out earlier, they posted a link to a website
that had that title (something like "Haharishi wants
your feedback") but did not allow those who went there
to *provide* any feedback. Feedback is not WANTED during
the contraction phase of a spiritual movement. It is fed
only by FEAR -- fear of losing the support of the donors
who give money to it, fear of losing its followers, fear
of the outside world, etc. They don't WANT any feedback
other than that fear.  In my opinion, of course...







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