--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have heard that people who want to improve their marriages should
> think of it as a verb, "marriaging", which includes a lot of 
behaviors
> that keep it alive.  I view the word cult the same way, as a set of
> specific manipulative behaviors that are designed to remove 
critical
> choice.  That is what is so great about the information about these
> behaviors being so common among people who still do TM.  It 
restores
> choices because it takes a lot of the steam out of the techniques'
> effectiveness.
> 
> When I was into TM I had no problem believing the Moonies were a 
cult,
> or Jim Jones' group.  The only counterargument to the TM view that 
I
> heard was the fundamentalist Christians, and that didn't seem to 
make
> any sense.  I didn't have the information about the specific
> techniques of thought reform so that I could decide for myself if 
they
> were being used at different levels of the TM organization.  
Everyone
> relates to this information differently according to their own
> experience.  Labeling TM as a cult doesn't do any good if you 
aren't
> looking at the specific techniques so you can decide if they 
apply.  
> 
> For me I couldn't deny that the descriptions fit my experience as a
> full time TMer.  But that didn't make me stop TM. It just made me 
feel
> separate from the organization and made me stop teaching.    But 
the
> specific information about thought reform helped me understand my
> involvement better.  Now this information is out there for anyone 
who
> is interested and I think this is one of the reasons that the 
movement
> has dwindled so low in numbers.
> 
> Deciding that the TM org uses manipulative techniques doesn't mean 
you
> have to leave your own path of spirituality as so many on this 
group
> demonstrate.
>


Here's the significant difference between TM and other cults.

If you just practise the TM Technique, there is zero cultiness about 
it.  Indeed, it is the antithesis of a cult.

But if you're involved in the TMO, you are, by implication, involved 
in a cult...because if you stay in it after being exposed to the 
madness and insanity of it, the only explanation is that you would 
have to be in a cult to stay.






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