--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
<snip>
> > > That is what is so great about the information about these
> > > behaviors being so common among people who still do TM.
> > 
> > So everyone who still does TM is a cultist?
> 
> I see that I wrote my point poorly on re-reading it.

(The sentence quoted above was fine; it was just
that it could be read two ways, and the context
didn't clearly indicate which way it was intended.)

  Thanks for the
> chance to clarify.  I meant that it is great that people in TM now
> commonly know about mind control tactics so they can decide for
> themselves if they apply to their own involvement with TMO.  My 
point
> was that calling TMO a cult or, using your word, calling TMers
> "cultist" is not useful. But knowing about thought reform techniques
> is valuable information whether you decide to continue practicing TM
> or stay involved in TMO, or leave the group and the practice as I
> have.  I do not believe that people who do TM deserve the 
reductionist
> label "cultist". I think most if not all the people who post here 
have
> taken a look at this information and have come to their own
> conclusions.  I respect that.

Thanks for the clarification.

FWIW, I've read quite a bit now about "thought
reform" and "mind control" techniques.  Looking
back on my involvement with TM (as a rank-and-filer
not involved with the TMO per se), I find myself
completely unable to identify any instance in
which I was deprived of "critical choice."

If this was ever attempted, it certainly wasn't
successful in shutting up the little skeptical
voice that I've listened to intently throughout
my life.  Through all my various life experiences,
that little voice has had its say with regard to
the choices I've made.

I have never ignored that voice.  I may sometimes
have chosen to set it to one side on occasion for
the sake of giving something a try (by no means
limited to things TM-ish), but always in full
knowledge that I was doing do, and that I might
subsequently decide I should have kept it front
and center.

If the TMO does use "thought reform" techniques,
with rank-and-filers, at least, it's done a pretty
ineffective job.






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