--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 9/30/06 10:50:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Oh, but  Shemp, you *first* have to find him guilty of being a terrorist and 
> >  he has the right of due process, being informed of his rights, being 
> charged,  
> > having an attorney present, having time to prepare a defense and then  a 
> jury 
> > of *his* peers. And then once he is found guilty and run out  of appeals 
> you 
> > can't do anything to violate his rights or subject him  to cruel or unusual 
> > punishment. It reminds me of the Pakistani  general on the 911 mini series 
> that 
> > said to the CIA agent that  captured RamsyYusef, " give me two hours with 
> him 
> > and I'll get you  all the information you want that he has". Then later 
> when 
> > our FBI  agents interrogate a terrorist all they could do was threaten to 
> tell 
> >  his momma that her son was a terrorist.
> >
> 
> You like simplistic  world models, don't you?
> 
> 
> 
> Spair What I wrote above on the first line came almost verbatim from a  
> poster on this list a couple of years ago when torture was discussed before.  
> They 
> believed that terrorist suspects should have all the rights of an American  
> citizen being accused of a crime and that they were innocent until proven  
> guilty. Of course they didn't say where they would stand if they were tried 
> and  
> found guilty of being a terrorist. But I have no doubt that same person would 
>  
> still object to any forced interrogation that might be *uncomfortable* for 
> them.  Where do you stand Spair? If you were President and had a high profile 
> terrorist  in custody who had lots of information on terrorist activity and 
> he 
> wanted to  kill your countrymen by the thousands, would you just let him sit 
> in a 
> prison,  silent?
>

1) How do you know he's a terrorist?
2) How do you know he has anything of value?





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