--- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > <shempmcgurk@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Lets see if DIXON and SHEMP can deal with one single issue and > > stick > > > to that issue. > > > > > > Mexican farmers and US farm subsidies. > > > > > > US (and European) goverment subsidises its farmers such that > > > bankruptcy is avoided by their farmers. Without these subsidies > > the > > > US farmers would have a hard time to compete with other > countries. > > > The US makes a vast fortune in arms sales around the world and > > other > > > dubious business. These subsidies mean that a Mexican farmer > > cannot > > > compete so he cannot afford to hire farm hands, so the workers > go > > to > > > the US (illegally) to work and gain from the US subsidies. The > > > Mexican farmer cannot compete. The US farmer gets cheap, illegal > > > labor, and the right-wingers in this country try to build a joke > > > fence to stop them coming in. The US continues to make money > from > > > oil companies, selling arms, and racking up a massive debt which > > > stands today at: > > > > > > $8,553,293,703,6000.05 > > > > > > http://brillig.com/debt_clock/ > > > > > > Thus, through these dubious methods of funding its farmers, the > US > > > contributes directly to keeping the poor, poor, and the Mexican > > > economy subserviant to US control at a low economic level. > > > > > > One instance where the US makes others stay poor (very bad karma > > for > > > US), and I am looking forward to watch MDIXON and Shemp's usual > > > avoidance of the issues, changing the subject, slinging names > > > around, and cutting and running. It is like watching Laurel and > > > Hardy build a house. > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > <<<How can I avoid it. > I've already discussed this issue with you at least once (Indeed,I > think I may have been the one to bring it up!) and I totally agree > with you. > Everyone on this forum knows that I am an advocate of both free > markets and globalization...AND minimum government interference in > markets. > Government subsidies to US farmers are horrible interferences in the > marketplace and do all the things that you cite above and should > be stopped. > Indeed, before I ever met you on this forum, I was against them. > Here I am talking about them on a.m.t. as far back as '03 as well > as posting articles opposing them (do a word search on "subsidies" > or "subsidy" once you get to these links)>>> > > ROTFL ! > > Then you now agree that it is not just hard work on their part that > gets people out of poverty. You are stating that they are being held > down by quote "horrible interferences". > > You just lost the other argument that you said you had won (twice) > > (Looks like MDIXON is on his own over the "Poor people can just work > their way out of poverty" argument.) > > OffWorld > > Ouch...thats gotta hurt Shempgurk. >
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