--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Lets see if DIXON and SHEMP can deal with one single issue and > stick > > to that issue. > > > > Mexican farmers and US farm subsidies. > > > > US (and European) goverment subsidises its farmers such that > > bankruptcy is avoided by their farmers. Without these subsidies > the > > US farmers would have a hard time to compete with other countries. > > The US makes a vast fortune in arms sales around the world and > other > > dubious business. These subsidies mean that a Mexican farmer > cannot > > compete so he cannot afford to hire farm hands, so the workers go > to > > the US (illegally) to work and gain from the US subsidies. The > > Mexican farmer cannot compete. The US farmer gets cheap, illegal > > labor, and the right-wingers in this country try to build a joke > > fence to stop them coming in. The US continues to make money from > > oil companies, selling arms, and racking up a massive debt which > > stands today at: > > > > $8,553,293,703,6000.05 > > > > http://brillig.com/debt_clock/ > > > > Thus, through these dubious methods of funding its farmers, the US > > contributes directly to keeping the poor, poor, and the Mexican > > economy subserviant to US control at a low economic level. > > > > One instance where the US makes others stay poor (very bad karma > for > > US), and I am looking forward to watch MDIXON and Shemp's usual > > avoidance of the issues, changing the subject, slinging names > > around, and cutting and running. It is like watching Laurel and > > Hardy build a house. > > > > OffWorld > > > > <<<How can I avoid it. I've already discussed this issue with you at least once (Indeed,I think I may have been the one to bring it up!) and I totally agree with you. Everyone on this forum knows that I am an advocate of both free markets and globalization...AND minimum government interference in markets. Government subsidies to US farmers are horrible interferences in the marketplace and do all the things that you cite above and should be stopped. Indeed, before I ever met you on this forum, I was against them. Here I am talking about them on a.m.t. as far back as '03 as well as posting articles opposing them (do a word search on "subsidies" or "subsidy" once you get to these links)>>>
ROTFL ! Then you now agree that it is not just hard work on their part that gets people out of poverty. You are stating that they are being held down by quote "horrible interferences". You just lost the other argument that you said you had won (twice) (Looks like MDIXON is on his own over the "Poor people can just work their way out of poverty" argument.) OffWorld Ouch...thats gotta hurt Shempgurk. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
