--- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk"
> > > <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings
> > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Lets see if DIXON and SHEMP can deal with one single issue 
> and
> > > > stick
> > > > > to that issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mexican farmers and US farm subsidies.
> > > > >
> > > > > US (and European) goverment subsidises its farmers such 
that
> > > > > bankruptcy is avoided by their farmers. Without these 
> subsidies
> > > > the
> > > > > US farmers would have a hard time to compete with other
> > > countries.
> > > > > The US makes a vast fortune in arms sales around the world 
> and
> > > > other
> > > > > dubious business. These subsidies mean that a Mexican 
farmer
> > > > cannot
> > > > > compete so he cannot afford to hire farm hands, so the 
> workers
> > > go
> > > > to
> > > > > the US (illegally) to work and gain from the US subsidies. 
> The
> > > > > Mexican farmer cannot compete. The US farmer gets cheap, 
> > illegal
> > > > > labor, and the right-wingers in this country try to build 
a 
> > joke
> > > > > fence to stop them coming in. The US continues to make 
money
> > > from
> > > > > oil companies, selling arms, and racking up a massive debt 
> > which
> > > > > stands today at:
> > > > >
> > > > > $8,553,293,703,6000.05
> > > > >
> > > > > http://brillig.com/debt_clock/
> > > > >
> > > > > Thus, through these dubious methods of funding its 
farmers, 
> the
> > > US
> > > > > contributes directly to keeping the poor, poor, and the 
> Mexican
> > > > > economy subserviant to US control at a low economic level.
> > > > >
> > > > > One instance where the US makes others stay poor (very bad 
> > karma
> > > > for
> > > > > US), and I am looking forward to watch MDIXON and Shemp's 
> usual
> > > > > avoidance of the issues, changing the subject, slinging 
names
> > > > > around, and cutting and running. It is like watching 
Laurel 
> and
> > > > > Hardy build a house.
> > > > >
> > > > > OffWorld
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > <<<How can I avoid it.
> > > I've already discussed this issue with you at least once 
> (Indeed,I
> > > think I may have been the one to bring it up!) and I totally 
> agree
> > > with you.
> > > Everyone on this forum knows that I am an advocate of both free
> > > markets and globalization...AND minimum government 
interference 
> in
> > > markets.
> > > Government subsidies to US farmers are horrible interferences 
in 
> > the
> > > marketplace and do all the things that you cite above and 
should
> > > be stopped.
> > > Indeed, before I ever met you on this forum, I was against 
them.
> > > Here I am talking about them on a.m.t. as far back as '03 as 
well
> > > as posting articles opposing them (do a word search 
> on "subsidies"
> > > or "subsidy" once you get to these links)>>>
> > > 
> > > ROTFL !
> > > 
> > > Then you now agree that it is not just hard work on their part 
> that
> > > gets people out of poverty. You are stating that they are 
being 
> > held
> > > down by quote "horrible interferences".
> > > 
> > > You just lost the other argument that you said you had won 
> (twice)
> > > 
> > > (Looks like MDIXON is on his own over the "Poor people can 
just 
> > work
> > > their way out of poverty" argument.)
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > > 
> > > Ouch...thats gotta hurt Shempgurk.
> > >
> > 
> > Haven't you posted this same thing about 5 times now?>>>
> 
> 5 times no response from you means you lost.
> BWA HAHA HAh hahhahhahhHHHAAA......
> 
> OffWorld
>


Enjoy your laugh (you need the stress release) but look back at the 
archives because I did respond.





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