--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Louis McKenzie <ltm457@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have believed in reincarnation, but I must say I did 
> > > > not understand what the word meant.  I have always thought 
> > > > of reincarnating as death and rebirth. But lets look at when you 
> > > > said. Consciouness does not die. Consciousness therefore is not 
> > > > reborn.  I am not my body I am the indweller. I will maintian 
> > > > this body for a time and then change it like old clothes, like 
> > > > moving from one house to the other. <snip excellent story>
> > > 
> > > Just FYI, one view of the rebirth process described 
> > > in the Tibetan Book of the Dead is that it is not
> > > just describing what happens when you actually die.
> > > The same process applies to the continual death and
> > > rebirth of the self during a single incarnation.
> > 
> > That is an interesting concept. What do you mean by 
> > continual death and rebirth during a single incarnation?
> 
> Ok, this is probably going to take some "setting up."
> 
> The basic concept is that we, as humans and as seekers,
> do not have a fixed self. We have millions of them. As
> Walt Whitman said, "I contain multitudes."
> 
> Given this assumption, what many people see as the 'self'
> growing and learning from experience and changing over
> the years some Buddhists view more as one self dying
> and another becoming active. 'Self' itself is viewed
> as the decision to access and dwell in a particular 
> state of attention. Move to another state of attention
> and that self dies and is replaced with another equally
> illusory self more appropriate to the new state of
> attention.
> 
> What I'm suggesting is that another way to view the
> process of "growing up," one that doesn't depend on 
> the notion of a fixed self, is to view self discovery
> as a continual series of deaths and rebirths. One self
> is left behind and the next becomes predominant, until
> it's time for that one to be left behind, too.
> 
> *If* one looks at life that way, and thinks in those
> terms, the Tibetan Book of the Dead takes on whole new
> levels of meaning. The descriptions of the Bardo transits
> can be seen in terms of things that happen to us day by
> day in this lifetime, and not solely in terms of what
> happens to us during the actual transit from physical
> death to new physical life.
>

Makes sense. Certainly, the concept of deep-sleep-as-mini-death goes along with 
this. Of 
course, you take it to its ultimate extreme: each span of attention is a 
micro-life complete 
with micro-self.

That is very MMY-esque of you actually.




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