--- In [email protected], coldbluiceman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > spare egg <Lawson English> wrote: > > > cold blu ice man wrote: > > > > sparaig wrote: > > > > > Alex Stanley wrote: > > > > > > > spare egg wrote: > > > > > > > > > > cold blu ice man wrote: > > > > > > > > > > As no "pundit" worth his salt would > > > > > > > > > > make a claim > > > > > > > > > > (or allow another to > > > > > > > > > > make a claim) that would insinuate > > > > > > > > > > a group of pundits > > > > > > > > > > chanting "Vedic verses" could > > > > > > > > > > change the course of human events. > > > > > > > > > > > What is a mahayagya, O Sagacious One? > > > > > This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg ???? > > > > > > Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji.., > > > i must politley inform you that the photo you > > > are looking at is the-- > > > Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the > > > Jamuna/Yamuna river. > > > The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once > > > every 12 years at the > > > junction of the three sacred rivers > > > (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) > > > and attended by more than 40 million people. > > > Now the dates of the > > > Khumba Mela are set to the specific location > > > using astrological > > > calculations based upon the placement of > > > planet Jupiter, also there > > > are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years > > > on the Jamuna River. > > > > > > ..."The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years > > > in rotation at > > > Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, > > > according to the > > > placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. > > > A modern innovation, there are > > > also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, > > > every six years at Haridwar > > > and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the > > > Yamuna River joins the Ganga, > > > that the largest number of human beings in > > > history gathered--15 > > > million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, > > > logistically less convenient, > > > managed ten million on April 14, 1998. > > > Still, that's five times this > > > year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed > > > to Mecca for the > > > Haj, the second largest gathering..." > > > http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml > > > > > > Now AJ Ji..,what were lead to believe that photo is?? > > > > > > > According to Steve Perino, > > > > no pundit worth his salt would make the > > > > claim that would > > > > insinutate a group of pundits chanting > > > > Vedic verses could change the course of human > > > > events.... > > > > > > i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until > > > his doctors have screened > > > him for paranoia & delusional behavior. > > > But having said that- if indeed that > > > was a "world peace" gathering > > > in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was).. > > > It sadly did not have the desired effect as how many estimated > > > millions died during Summer 1944 and Summer 1945 in WWII?? > > > > > > How many a-bombs did we drop on Japan in the Summer of 1945? > > > > > > > I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, > > merely on your claim that they are > > not traditional. > > Namaste Sir Lawson Ji.., > i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?.. > and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, "not traditional"?? > > Stop making this stuff up!!..i am stop posting to you if you don't > get professional help. > > > I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR? > > Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) with desired personal > results for all aspects of family life with regards to *PERSONAL* > spiritual upliftment: > 1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS > 2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND > 3. EQUALITY > 4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER > 5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES > http://urday.com/panch-2.html > > > Hint to lurkers: google "mahayagya" > > Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to "world peace".., now please > get screened by your professional mental health care provider..for > your family's sake. >
Heh. So mahayagya is only for the individual? The term "pancha mahayajnas" (mahayagyas) refers specifically to individual daily rituals. However, mahayajna also refers to the great rituals done by massive groups for many different purposes. Had you done a google search on mahayagya rather than "pancha mahayagya" you would have noted this immediately since there is only one hit for "pancha mahayagya" with quotes: the one you gave us. Talk about a transparent attempt to skew the information to support your argument! http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Yajna/id/62894 yajna: (Sanskrit) "Worship; sacrifice." One of the most central Hindu concepts - sacrifice and surrender through acts of worship, inner and outer. 1) A form of ritual worship especially prevalent in Vedic times, in which oblations - ghee, grains, spices and exotic woods - are offered into a fire according to scriptural injunctions while special mantras are chanted. - The element fire, Agni, is revered as the divine messenger who carries offerings and prayers to the Gods. - The ancient Veda Brahmanas and the Shrauta Shastras describe various types of yajna rites, some so elaborate as to require hundreds of priests, whose powerful chanting resounds for miles. These major yajnas are performed in large, open-air structures called yagashala. - Domestic yajnas, prescribed in the Grihya Shastras, are performed in the family compound or courtyard. Yajna requires four components, none of which may be omitted: dravya, sacrificial substances; tyaga, the spirit of sacrificing all to God; devata, the celestial beings who receive the sacrifice; and mantra, the empowering word or chant. - While puja (worship in temples with water, lights and flowers) has largely replaced the yajna, this ancient rite still continues, and its specialized priestly training is carried on in schools in India. - Yajnas of a grand scale are performed for special occasions, beseeching the Gods for rain during drought, or for peace during bloody civil war. Even in temples, yajna has its Agamic equivalent in the agnikaraka, the homa or havana ceremony, held in a fire pit (homakunda) in an outer mandapa of a temple as part of elaborate puja rites. - 2) Personal acts of worship or sacrifice. Life itself is a jivayajna. - The Upanishads suggest that one can make "inner yajnas" by offering up bits of the little self into the fires of sadhana and tapas until the greater Self shines forth. The five daily yajnas, pancha mahayajna, of the householder (outlined in the Dharma Shastras) ensure offerings to rishis, ancestors, Gods, creatures and men. They are as follows. - brahma yajna: (also called Veda yajna or rishi yajna) "Homage to the seers." Accomplished through studying and teaching the Vedas. - deva yajna: "Homage to Gods and elementals." Recognizing the debt due to those who guide nature, and the feeding of them by offering ghee and uncooked grains into the fire. This is the homa sacrifice. - pitri yajna: "Homage to ancestors." Offering of cakes (pinda) and water to the family line and the progenitors of mankind. - bhuta yajna: "Homage to beings." Placing food-offerings, bali, on the ground, intended for animals, birds, insects, wandering outcastes and beings of the invisible worlds. ("Let him gently place on the ground [food] for dogs, outcastes, svapachas, those diseased from sins, crows and insects" Manu Dharma Shastras 3.92). - manushya yajna: "Homage to men." Feeding guests and the poor, the homeless and the student. Manushya yajna includes all acts of philanthropy, such as tithing and charity. The Vedic study is performed in the morning. The other four yajnas are performed just before taking one's noon meal. Manu Dharma Shastras (3.80) states, "Let him worship, according to the rule, the rishis with Veda study, the devas with homa, the pitris with shraddha, men with food, and the bhutas with bali." Mystics warn that all offerings must be tempered in the fires of kundalini through the power of inner yajna to be true and valuable, just as the fire of awareness is needed to indelibly imprint ideas and concepts on one's own akashic window. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
