In a message dated 11/17/06 11:33:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

called  the Art of Living center in Boulder Colorado and spoke with 
> an  individual who said that the Art of Living meditation technique is 
>  different than the TM technique. He also said that there is an 
>  emphasis on krias (purification practices) and pranayama in 
>  conjunction with meditation. The meditation is called SaHaj in which 
>  the attention is put on the heart along with the use of a mantra as 
>  opposed to TM in which the mantra is effortlessly repeated with 
>  transcending naturally occurring. To say that both techniques are 
>  identical according to this individual is incorrect. He knows because 
>  he was a TMer and learned SaHaj as taught by the Art of Living also. 
>  So at this point, I've decided to go with TM for my daughter and hope 
>  she likes it and sticks to it. This individual also mentioned that 
>  there is no tension between Shankar and MMY, that MMY support 
>  everything Shankar is doing. He also said that prices are negotiable, 
>  students pay half the price and that there is no problem if someone 
>  cannot afford to pay at all. He said that Shankar was a secretary of 
>  MMY's and when he became enlightened, MMY encourage Shankar to go off 
>  and teach with MMY's blessing. That according to this person I spoke 
>  with, there never was a problem with MMY and Shankar. I get the 
>  impression that many of the TMers who went with this group were 
>  looking for a more personal relationship with a master/organization 
>  which is what it sounds like, like what the TM organization was back 
>  in the 60s early 70s, loosely conducted with a Guru who is very 
>  assessable. Mark
> 
> 
> 
> Mark, have you ever gotten  any TM advanced techniques?
>

A couple of points:

the  description of advanced techniques I see is verbotten by MMY because it  
destroys 
innocence. The specific description of something having to do  with the heart 
has been 
discredited by several people, and I remember the  exact words used by my 
advanced 
techniquesteacher and it isn't what  everyone says it is anyway. 

While it is possible that different people  were taught in different ways by 
advanced 
techniques teachers, this seems  less than likely given how rigid MMY's 
teacher-teaching 
methods have been  over the years.




Um Spair, I didn't mention any specific advanced technique nor did I  
describe any in my question to Mark. I simply asked if he had any advanced  
techniques.  I don't think MMY has any problem with people asking others if  
they have 
any advanced techniques or which one are they "on". Your two points  are 
exactly what MMY refers to as verbotten.

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