--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" jyouells@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/15/06 11:09:19 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > > > msilver1951@ writes:
> > > >
> > > > called  the Art of Living center in Boulder Colorado and spoke
with
> > > > an individual  who said that the Art of Living meditation
> > technique is
> > > > different than the  TM technique. He also said that there is an
> > > > emphasis on krias  (purification practices) and pranayama in
> > > > conjunction with meditation. The  meditation is called SaHaj in
which
> > > > the attention is put on the heart  along with the use of a
mantra as
> > > > opposed to TM in which the mantra is  effortlessly repeated with
> > > > transcending naturally occurring. To say that  both techniques
are
> > > > identical according to this individual is incorrect.  He knows
> > because
> > > > he was a TMer and learned SaHaj as taught by the Art of  Living
also.
> > > > So at this point, I've decided to go with TM for my daughter 
and
> > hope
> > > > she likes it and sticks to it. This individual also mentioned 
that
> > > > there is no tension between Shankar and MMY, that MMY support
> > > > everything Shankar is doing. He also said that prices are
> > negotiable,
> > > > students pay half the price and that there is no problem if
someone
> > > > cannot afford to pay at all. He said that Shankar was a
secretary of
> > > > MMY's and when he became enlightened, MMY encourage Shankar to
go
> > off
> > > > and teach with MMY's blessing. That according to this person I
spoke
> > > > with, there never was a problem with MMY and Shankar. I get the
> > > > impression that many of the TMers who went with this group were
> > > > looking for a more personal relationship with a
master/organization
> > > > which is what it sounds like, like what the TM organization was
back
> > > > in the 60s early 70s, loosely conducted with a Guru who is very
> > > > assessable. Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mark, have you ever gotten any TM advanced  techniques?
> > > >
> > >
> > >  A couple of points:
> > >
> > > the description of advanced techniques I see is verbotten by MMY
> > because it destroys
> > > innocence. The specific description of something having to do with
> > the heart has been
> > > discredited by several people, and I remember the exact words used
> > by my advanced
> > > techniquesteacher and it  isn't what everyone says it is anyway.
> > >
> > > While it is possible that different people were taught in
different
> > ways by advanced
> > > techniques teachers, this seems less than likely given how rigid
> > MMY's teacher-teaching
> > > methods have been over the years.
> > >
> > Spair,
> >   You're talking about stuff you know very little about.
> > 'nuff said.
> >
>
> And you know more? Were you an advanced techniques teacher, perhaps?

"And you know more?" Yes, I do.
You're holding on to some unrealistic ideas about rigidity.








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