--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 17, 2006, at 12:16 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 17, 2006, at 10:46 AM, sparaig wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Neither simple nor complex.
> >>>
> >>> And you keep claiming that shamatha is the same as TM. Here's what
> >>> an apparently
> >>> famous Shamatha advocate says about shamatha. He, at least, has the
> >>> excuse that he
> >>> never learned TM:
> >>>
> >> <gracious snip>
> >>
> >> No that's NOT what I claim. I merely said TM is a *form* of Shamatha.
> >> That's certainly not to imply that all forms of Shamatha are the same
> >> as TM, they are not.
> >>
> >> There are literally hundreds of different styles of Shamatha.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Well, so this guy's description of Shamatha certainly doesn't sound  
> > like TM. Whose
> > description of Shamatha does?
> 
> If it sounded like it, it would be like it? Is that your reasoning?
> 
> I still think you could have a future as a TM standup comedian.
>

Perhaps. I note you avoid the question whenever I bring it up.


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