--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "hugheshugo"
> <richardhughes103@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], hermandan0 <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone else see this story from the Cleveland Plain Dealer?
> > >
> 
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/116
3928892287880.xml&coll=2#continue
> > > 
> > > Especially of note is the comment on the third online page 
> > > where Zanna Fietler says full time yogic flyers (and some 
> > > non-full time, by implication) are hovering.
> > > 
> > > Anyone else hear reports of hovering?
> > 
> > Heard it but won't believe til I've seen with my own eyes.
> 
> This brings up a very interesting question: *Would* you
> believe it if you saw it with your own eyes?
<snip>
> *If* you don't trust your own perceptions, will you
> ever trust your own perceptions of enlightenment
> unless they are "confirmed" by someone you consider
> an authority figure or by some "scientific" measure?
> I don't think so.

There may be a difference in terms of one's
perceptions between seeing someone else hover
and hovering oneself.  I should think the latter
would be more convincing.

And likewise with enlightenment: One may be more
inclined to trust one's perceptions of one's own
enlightenment than some authority's pronouncements
thereof.

Interestingly, though, in other discussions, those
who assert that they *aren't* enlightened have been
told they just don't want to *recognize* that they're
enlightened.  Funny how one is supposed to trust
one's own perceptions of being enlightened, but not
one's perceptions of *not* being enlightened.)



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