--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > I am with you, Hermanitor. > > > > Until someone demonstrates hovering they should not try to teach > > about enlightenment or religion. > > > > Although I have seen big unathletic geeky ungainly blokes doing > > yogic hopping in such an amazingly effortless and almost floating > > way (and long jumps for 20 or 30 minutes) that it becomes > impossible > > not to believe that there is something to it, that must be > > important. It is uncanny what I saw in England many times. This > one > > unathletic big galoot of a guy, hopping effortlessly and big > jumps, > > giggling, and almost oblivious to the act of hopping, the whole > time > > for 20-30 minutes. > > > > OffWorld > > Hi, hovering has nothing to do with enlightenment. It is an > indication of a clear channel within the human nervous system, > though not an indicator of Self Realization. Whether or not we can > manifest results of the Patanjali Yoga sutras or not has nothing to > do with the complete freedom and lack of boundaries that we live > when Self Realization dawns. The sutras are indications of the > clarity needed to live an enlightened state and indications of good > progress to that end. But they are not indications of enlightenment. > From my own experience I used to have excellent results with many > sutras, and I was definitely not Self-Realized! >>
How do you know you were not self-realised? What proof do you have for this, and why can I not consider such proof yet another illusion of yours. You see, it works both ways if you want to so construe it. OffWorld <<So perhaps this is > why the common expression associated with the Yoga Sutras is that > they can be a distraction. In other words, the waking state mind > finds them flashy and tangible, and may be distracted from its one > pointed focus on Self Realization.>> And who shall make such a concrete and definative judgement that you shall pay attention to?...he that only walks and talks?...or he that can fly? OffWorld