--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > I am with you, Hermanitor.  
> >  
> > Until someone demonstrates hovering they should not try to teach 
> > about enlightenment or religion.   
> > 
> > Although I have seen big unathletic geeky ungainly blokes doing 
> > yogic hopping in such an amazingly effortless and almost floating 
> > way (and long jumps for 20 or 30 minutes) that it becomes 
> impossible 
> > not to believe that there is something to it, that must be 
> > important. It is uncanny what I saw in England many times. This 
> one 
> > unathletic big galoot of a guy, hopping effortlessly and big 
> jumps, 
> > giggling, and almost oblivious to the act of hopping, the whole 
> time 
> > for 20-30 minutes.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> 
> Hi, hovering has nothing to do with enlightenment. It is an 
> indication of a clear channel within the human nervous system, 
> though not an indicator of Self Realization. Whether or not we can 
> manifest results of the Patanjali Yoga sutras or not has nothing to 
> do with the complete freedom and lack of boundaries that we live 
> when Self Realization dawns. The sutras are indications of the 
> clarity needed to live an enlightened state and indications of good 
> progress to that end. But they are not indications of enlightenment. 
> From my own experience I used to have excellent results with many 
> sutras, and I was definitely not Self-Realized! So perhaps this is 
> why the common expression associated with the Yoga Sutras is that 
> they can be a distraction. In other words, the waking state mind 
> finds them flashy and tangible, and may be distracted from its one 
> pointed focus on Self Realization.
>

Or perhaps MMY is correct, and perfection of any siddhi is a sign of 
enlightenment.


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