--- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > I am with you, Hermanitor. > > > > > > Until someone demonstrates hovering they should not try to teach > > > about enlightenment or religion. > > > > > > Although I have seen big unathletic geeky ungainly blokes doing > > > yogic hopping in such an amazingly effortless and almost > floating > > > way (and long jumps for 20 or 30 minutes) that it becomes > > impossible > > > not to believe that there is something to it, that must be > > > important. It is uncanny what I saw in England many times. This > > one > > > unathletic big galoot of a guy, hopping effortlessly and big > > jumps, > > > giggling, and almost oblivious to the act of hopping, the whole > > time > > > for 20-30 minutes. > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > Hi, hovering has nothing to do with enlightenment. It is an > > indication of a clear channel within the human nervous system, > > though not an indicator of Self Realization. Whether or not we can > > manifest results of the Patanjali Yoga sutras or not has nothing > to > > do with the complete freedom and lack of boundaries that we live > > when Self Realization dawns. The sutras are indications of the > > clarity needed to live an enlightened state and indications of > good > > progress to that end. But they are not indications of > enlightenment. > > From my own experience I used to have excellent results with many > > sutras, and I was definitely not Self-Realized! >> > > > How do you know you were not self-realised? What proof do you have > for this, and why can I not consider such proof yet another illusion > of yours. You see, it works both ways if you want to so construe it. > > OffWorld
I don't want to stand in the way with whatever you want to believe. :-) > > <<So perhaps this is > > why the common expression associated with the Yoga Sutras is that > > they can be a distraction. In other words, the waking state mind > > finds them flashy and tangible, and may be distracted from its one > > pointed focus on Self Realization.>> > > And who shall make such a concrete and definative judgement that you > shall pay attention to?...he that only walks and talks?...or he > that can fly? > > OffWorld > I can't say. Please make up your own mind on this.
