--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I had unmistakable, repeatable and sustained experiences 
> > > of siddhis doing the program, and after stopping the practice 
> > > of it. For you to imply that Maharishi could equal the 
> > > achievement of Patanjali ...
> > 
> > I know you're trying to be cute, but that's not what
> > I was implying. I don't think that the TM siddhis
> > do anything at all; any effect is the result of the
> > "Dumbo's feather" syndrome, also known as the placebo
> > effect, also known as moodmaking.
> 
> Sorry, strike moodmaking above. Not the same thing
> at all. I was writing faster than I was thinking.
> 
> The analogy of "Dumbo's feather" is better, as is
> placebo, because the effects in both cases are
> *real*. Dumbo could really fly. The person given
> a sugar pill really does get better. Moodmaking, 
> as it is commonly known in TM circles, implies 
> that the effects might not be real, just imagined.
> 

"Mood-making" in the context of TM refers to an imagined gneric way in which 
all 
enlightened people act. 

> I believe that people have genuine experiences 
> as a result of practicing the TM siddhis. I'm 
> just not convinced that the TM siddhis cause
> those experiences.
>

Er, try to be more precise in your wording. "result of" requires "cause."


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