--- In [email protected], "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> > "Doing program" in a room with siddhas, at its finest,
> > was a 3 on a scale that, for me, goes to 11. There
> > really wasn't much to get freaked about.
> 
> ----For me doing program during the taste of utopia was about 
> a seven on the shakti scale with being with very old time 
> Dzogchen Buddhists at KDL in Vermont about the same and one 
> small drubchod or intensive pretty much over the top. 

I've never been "over the top." I reserve the Spinal
Tap '11' setting for future use. :-) 



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