--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Amen to that, brother. I actually transecend while > > doing the middle rhythm of SK. Its very funny > because > > the mind loses all content other than the > foundational > > intent it had right before it transcended/stopped > and > > when it becomes active again it has no idea why > the > > body is huffing and puffing for a few moments > before > > memory kicks in. SK is really quite amazing. A > yogic > > cognition by SSRS. > > > > Completely different than TM's transcendental > consciousness. Sparaig, you have truly got to be kidding me. First of all this is my experience, not yours and second of all you don't even do SK. You are only speaking out of TB dogma, now aren't you? Transcendental consciousness can be reached by a near infinite number of procedures and techniques. It boggles the mind to think that you truly believe that MMY and the techniques of the TMO are the only valid and legitimate means of experiencing what one already "is."? > BTW, it's obvious that the researchers on SRS > techniques are well-aware that what they > teach, either meditation or breathing, doesn't > induce TM-like results. Otherwise, they > wouldn't comment that "had researchers used a > idifferent analysis they might have found > something just like we did." > > Putting words in other researchers' mouths while > acknowledging that you are doing so is > the ultimate desperate attempt to reconcile > unexpected findings. They also apparently > revel in the idea that "bliss" is based on normal > happiness mechanisms rather than a sign > of an entirely different mechanism (bliss isn't > blissful, except to SRS and other normal > yogic meditation researchers): > > http://www.artoflivingresearch.org/pdf/A%20theoretical%20appraisal%20of%20yogic% > 20breath.Richard%20Brown.pdf > > Travis and colleagues presented data showing that 11 > > experienced TM practitioners showed greater > theta/alpha > power during stages three and four sleep compared to > nine > short-term practitioners and 11 non-practitioners. > They also > had increased rapid eye movement density during REM > periods.40 The subjective experience of > "transcending" during > meditation was marked by low breath frequency, > higher > respiratory sinus arrhythmia amplitudes, higher EEG > alpha > amplitude, and alpha coherence.41 A somewhat > different > analysis of the data might have also shown increased > theta > activity in certain circuits as was found by Aftanas > and > Golocheikine in 16 long-term and 1 short-term > meditators > using the Sahaja yoga meditation.42 Their study, > using more > complex spectral analysis of the EEG showed that > blissful > states during meditation correlated with left > anterior frontal > theta coherence in experienced meditators as well as > coherence > between anterior mid-line frontal areas (like the > sensory motor > cortex) and posterior association areas. These theta > waves > were different from the theta waves observed during > normal > sleep. Travis and Wallace proposed a two-phase model > of TM, > which is adequate to explain both findings.43 They > suggested > that the first phase of meditation involves shutting > down > orbital and basal frontal cortex activity, leading > to a quieting > of mind and body. The second phase maintains the > quieter > levels of function while the emergence of > thalamocortical > generators results in enhanced attention in a state > of > consciousness not associated with processing > specific > perceptual and cognitive content. In what they > called their > attention/intention model, alpha synchrony (I would > also say > theta coherence during bliss or transcendence) > indicates a > state of intention of the mind toward itself (the > mind turning > its attention to itself). Travis and Wallace propose > that the > prefrontal cortex initially activates the nucleus > reticularis of > the thalamus to inhibit specific and non-specific > activity in > thalamocortical circuits. To maintain and deepen the > > meditative state, basal ganglia-thalamocortical > circuits feed > forward to the globus pallidus and then inhibit the > mesencephalic reticular formation and the medial > dorsal > nuclei of the thalamus. This is relevant to the > effect of > Sudarshan Kriya on enhancing the ease of meditation > because > hyperventilation shuts off the mesencephalic > reticular > formation and stimulates thalamocortical circuits, > which > enhance meditation and wakefulness. > transcendent experience can be integrated with > waking, > dreaming, and sleeping with long experience in > meditation.45 > Although there have been no direct observations of > yoga > masters during blissful states of ecstasy, there is > one EEG study > of 7 famous Chi Kung masters in China that showed an > EEG > alpha activity predominantly in the anterior > cortical areas > with the peak frequency being slower than the normal > resting > state. This was suggested to be a state of increased > excitation > and is consistent with other findings during yoga > meditation > and TM.46 Therefore, I would suggest that continued > practice > in meditation develops the ability to increase > activity in the > activated bands (alpha, beta, gamma) of the EEG and > to > increase dopamine stimulation (figure 2) through the > > mesolimbic reward systems (figure 1), which results > in the > experience of bliss. The seasoned practitioner can > experience > joy despite any sensory input and in any state of > consciousness. > Endocrine Changes with Meditation and > Pranayama > Endocrine changes have been associated with > meditation and > Sudarshan Kriya. A study of three months practice of > > Sudarshan Kriya resulted in significant reduction in > cortisol > (one measure of stress response system activation in > the brain) > and correlated significantly with decreased > depression scores > over a three-week period.47 Another study of 12 > highly trained > yoga meditators (average 6-1/2 years experience) > compared > with 11 elite runners showed an increase in CRH > (corticotrophin-releasing hormone) but not > endorphins after > meditation. The 11 elite runners showed the same > magnitude > CRH release after running as the meditators, but the > runners > also released a beta-endorphin not found in the > meditators.48 > The hypothalamic pituitary adrenal (HPA) axis is > essential in > the stress response and survival of mammalian > species. It is > abnormally overactivated during biological > depression and > is alternately overactivated and depleted in > patients with post- > traumatic stress disorder. > There is data suggesting that meditation and > probably > hyperventilation cause release of pituitary hormones > (figure1), > probably through hypothalamic output mediated > through > vagal afferents. The 5-fold increase in vasopressin > associated > with meditation is significant41. There is older > evidence === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
