On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:55 PM, sparaig wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Nov 28, 2006, at 5:46 PM, sparaig wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:


On Nov 28, 2006, at 4:18 PM, sparaig wrote:

The yogattava upanishad mentions pranayama just before it mentions
levitation. It is
unclear TO ME at least as to whether or not this is meant to say
that the only way to
perform levitation is using pranayama or even if it is meant to
imply that pranayama, as a
practice (rather than as breath-suspension associated with samadhi)
leads to levitation.


For all siddhis, the secret is to master the "fourth" pranayama. You
see the same thing in Buddhist tantra and Hindu tantra.


Er, what is the "fourth" pranayama?


It's a key part of the YS.


Neatly side-stepping the question.

The fourth pranayama is taken from YS 2:50-51. Of course, it is easy to see that "fourth" (caturthaĆ¾) in this context is a play on words with reference to the "fourth" state of consciousness already identified by Patanjali": turya/TC/ samadhi. The TM research on breath suspension during samadhi/TC is certainly relevant to this discussion, and in fact, the detailed analysis found in Kesterson's research reveals why 2:51 is important and what
it actually means.


And, no, of course that's not what the fourth is. The fourth is not taught in TM or the TM siddhi program, nor have they identified it correctly in research that is published. Of course they want you to believe they have.

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