Yes. I totally agree.
And just as an aside, I like your moniker. I don't use one now, but
when I first posted here I used 'nothoughtdas'. Kind of fun to get to
play with the name/form thing on a forum like this. The moniker-thing
is an interesting part of it.
Nisargadatta never fails to draw a response, right? Can't help but
love him as a second teacher. Quite a guy.
Thanks,
Marek
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mathatbrahman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ---You mean the question of free will. The jury's out on this
> question, which we (and philosophers going back thousands of years),
> have gone over before. Choice may or may not "really" exist; but in
> any event, our lack of knowledge concerning the future, and karmic
> interactions in general, serve us a plate of alternative "apparent"
> choices, and there's currently no proof as to the nature of
> the "realness". I realize that some Gurus - like Ramana Maharshi -
> say there's no free will; but why should his statement be believed;
> especially in view of the statements regarding karma: that karma is
> unfathomable - even for Sages?. Ramana is a Sage but this doesn't
> make him an expert in karma. There are no experts in karma, and
> there's no proof or even evidence for Ramana's assertion, other than
> the appeal to authority. (but in regard to the appeal to authorities,
> I wouldn't trust MMY to guide anybody in matters of economics).
>
> In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <reavismarek@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Comment below:
> >
> > **
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > **Snip**
> >
> > >
> > > Still another way of looking at it is that it is
> > > a choice *only in retrospect*, i.e., from the
> > > perspective of realization, but not from the
> > > waking-state perspective ("Knowledge is different
> > > in different states of consciousness").
> > >
> >
> > **End**
> >
> > This (above), is backwards. "Realization" is the extinction of even
> > the concept of "choice". It's in the so-called waking state where
> > choice (like waking state) "appears" to exist.
> >
> > Realization is that it doesn't.
> >
>
