--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote:
> > > 
> > > > ---Vaj, but this is the "initial" stage, ...even from the POV 
> of 
> > your
> > > > Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu, complete, continuous realization
> > > > requires at least, time and abundant practice.  Perhaps Norbu 
> is
> > > > missing an important point regarding bodily purification; 
> and...I
> > > > contend, MMY's fund of knowledge on the topic of Realization 
is
> > > > superior to Norbu's.  This is not a case of "my Guru is 
> superior 
> > to
> > > > yours".  Just look at the facts.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You mean like one of Mahesh's beautiful and primary students
> > > recently going insane?
> > 
> > Are you referring to the one who became clinically
> > depressed after her beloved husband died too young?
> > 
> > > Thanks for reminding me.
> > 
> > Hey, remind us too, Vaj.
> >
> from The Noble Eightfold Path on Wikipedia:
> "Right speech (samyag-vâc · sammâ-vâcâ), as the name implies, deals 
> with the way in which a Buddhist practitioner would best make use 
of 
> his or her words. In the Magga-vibhanga Sutta, this aspect of the 
> Noble Eightfold Path is explained as follows:
> 
> And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, abstaining from 
> divisive speech, abstaining from abusive speech, abstaining from 
> idle chatter: This, monks, is called right speech.
> Walpola Rahula glosses this by stating that not engaging in 
> such "forms of wrong and harmful speech" ultimately means that "one 
> naturally has to speak the truth, has to use words that are 
friendly 
> and benevolent, pleasant and gentle, meaningful and useful".
> 
> I guess Vaj has a way to go...oh well, at least he is in 
> the 'initial' stages.

Spot on ! :-)


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