--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2006, at 4:54 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > Yup. And that of dozens of my friends and hundreds > > of people within the traditions I have studied. > > They have actually *had* the experience of realization, > > unlike some traditions that can only talk about it in > > theory and come up with excuses for why *their* students > > *don't* have the experience itself. > > > > "Your nervous system isn't pure enough yet. You need to > > 'purify.' Just keep paying us the money we ask for and > > keep coming to these courses. Someday you'll be pure > > enough to experience what you already are." > > > > Yeah, right. > > A "turning" in the seat of consciousness doesn't depend on a > purification of a nervous system or certain brain wave styles > or even a transcending mind.
Its primary attribute ( if it had attributes :-) is that it is not dependent on *anything*. > It's like Nike says "Just do it". No "doer" required. Ego > still optional. Exactly. > May not be available in some areas, but is present > everywhere, at all times. ;-) And for free. And be assured that if you tell people who have been paying through the nose for it and never getting it for decades that it's both available to them at any time *and* free, you'll get a reaction that is almost as angry and unreasoning as if you'd said their mother was a whore. People just don't like to admit that they have chosen badly in the past; they'd rather stand there in the middle of Nowhere, Kansas blaming their physiology, their astrology, and the gods than take responsibility for the fact that they made a slight mistake several years ago when buying that roadmap to California. :-)
