--- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Or maybe, just maybe, THEIR EXPERIENCE IS DIFFERENT. > > > Maybe, but which one: the THC experience, the LSD > experience, the amrit, ras, betel, wine, or the hopping > experience? >
Going back, how about a different way of saying the non- duality 'thing'..., (transcribed from a lecture) from Dr David Hawkins. "I'd like to end up back where we were, before we got off into the mind and all its propositions...you have that mantra?...everybody likes that one...after you hear it enough times it goes on its own within whenever you wish it to be there...and its often very useful because it takes you back into an energy at 740, the feelingness of a great cathedral, the exquisite beauty of nature, the divinity of all creatures as created, its more like it takes you into the memory of that reality and that sort of pulls you of the crisis that you are currently upset about...one just experiences the availability and the reality of that field of energy...it isn't the content of the mantra, whatever its saying, its the energy behind it...the essence of devotion itself, sensitivity to exquisite beauty, and the divinity of all that exists.......the willingness to surrender to the Love of God....in the end it will be 'And to thee oh Lord, I surrender my life, that which I am, completely surrendered to thee Oh Lord, Amen, and that is the last thing to be answered before you walk through the final door...the willingness to surrender your life itself, not that which you think is your life, its physicality, but the actual core of life itself...its like we intuit where that space is, there's no book that can tell us how to get there, all the discussions we have are to clear away the obstructions and then the Light begins to, like, rise in the background and we get the space where all that takes place...umm, and our willingness to go there is our willingness to go there is our commitment to each other as a devotional group, our willingness to go there for ourselves and each other, umm, out of our love for each other...which is not different than our love for God. So thank you for being here today and sharing this...and bless you all." Sept 2002 Dr Hawkins i like the way this cuts through the splitting the hair mind thing in these kinds of discussions. After a quote like this you can just go home and be. -Doug
