--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > Just to rub it in a little, the above from Barry and
> > Vaj is absolutely hilarious given (a) that we're
> > talking about the Netherlands, as Lawson pointed out;
> 
> Already dealt with. :-)

Uh, no.

> > and (b) that what Barry refers to as the "obviously
> > artificial structure" imposed by S-V on nature is in
> > fact S-V's primary orienting principle, that buildings
> > should face the sun (you know, that great big bright
> > obviously artificial round yellow thing humans hung
> > up in the sky awhile back).
> 
> Just to help Judy a little with her physics, the
> sun rises in the East only a few days each year.

Due east, right.

> Based on the following description from the 
> Astronomy Answers website, if what Judy says above
> were true, the buildings in Vlodrop would have to be
> built on movable foundations to face the great big
> bright yellow thing consistently:

If what Barry *interprets* me to have said were
true, so would all the other structures built by
humans to face the sun going back to prehistoric
times.

The point, of course, is that they're oriented
due East, where the sun rises on the equinoxes.
It's obviously not some artificial, arbitrary
orientation but one based very precisely on the
sun's position relative to a specific location
on earth.

Further, proper Vastu orientation is determined
by true magnetic north, the orientation of
the planet's magnetic field, also not an
artificial, arbitrary pattern imposed by humans.

Vastu, in other words, is an exclusively natural
orientation.  It's just on a much larger scale
than the attempt to follow mundane local contours
of the land.  Its reference is the solar system,
not the geographic features of the immediate area.

<snip>
> And, just for a final laugh on the subject, please
> check out the PDF that contains one of the TM move-
> ment's greatest moments, the planned "reconstruction"
> of New York and Paris to "correct" them:

Note that nowhere have I been defending Vastu,
especially not as the way to build cities.  My point
all along has been that Barry and Vaj's criticisms
of the layout of MMY's compound have been grounded in
massive ignorance.  They're criticisms *just for the
sake of criticism*.

It's one thing to express a preference for buildings
that take advantage of local features of the land
(although in this particular case, as I've noted
elsewhere, the local features with which MMY's
compound is at odds are themselves artificial) over
Vastu orientation.  It's quite another to claim that
preference is based on dislike of artificiality,
since Vastu principles are as natural as it gets.

Further, of course, subsidiary Vastu principles
require buildings to conform not only to the eastern
orientation (i.e., alignment with the sun) but to
local features such as hills and bodies of water as
well, so Barry and Vaj really don't have a leg to
stand on.


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