I don't fully undersdtand your post. What are the two identities that you are talking about?
--- qntmpkt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --The discussion below separates the "They" from > relative experience, > something the Dalai Lama never does. From a > Buddhist perspective, > there's just "existence". According to Buddhist > teachings, > Enlightenment awakens people to the Real nature of > existence; but > there's no philosophical separation between supposed > "two" identities. > Any such discussion is only from the viewpoint of > cc. > > > In [email protected], Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > No, it only appears to be nonsense due to lack of > > experience with pure consciousness. Let me > explain. > > First of all, from a waking state perspective, > that is > > from a perspective wherein consciousness is bound > by > > the object of experiencing, the question makes > sense. > > In waking state there is a rather self-evident > ego, a > > "me" or "I" that appears to be present in all > > experiencing. This "I" also seems to be surrounded > by > > a vast universe of relative experiences both > > subjective and objective. The "I" is inside the > > universe. So from this perspective questions like > > "where does an enlightened person go when they > drop > > the body" appears to make sense because it assumes > an > > "I" in enlightenment as in waking state. In short, > > what will this "I" experience when it is > enlightened > > and where will it be when it no longer is inside a > > body. But enlightenment is the awakening to the > > infinite value of Self. And if something is > infinite > > it is outside of relative measure; outside of all > time > > and space contraints. The Self of realization is > not > > localized. It is not inside the body, nor is it > inside > > the universe. It is nowhere from a relative > > perspective; it doesn't exist as an "I" or "me." > But > > experience does continue, obviously, but now > rather > > than being an "I" inside of all the experiencing, > all > > experincing is "inside" pure consciousness. > Everything > > gets turned on its head. All experience is simply > > something quite insignificant and not really > > real...whatever that means! So I'm sure when a > > realized person dies, the relative experincing > will > > change, but "they" don't go anywhere. How could > they? > > There is no localized self to come and go. > > Consciousness always "is." Experiences come and > go. > > Death of the body is just another experience. > > > > --- hyperbolicgeometry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > > > <drpetersutphen@> > > > wrote: > > > >(below): typical Neo-Advaita nonsense. The > > > discussion pertains to > > > the body, in the relative sense. > > > > You are making assumptions out of waking > state. In > > > > realization there is nobody to go anyplace. > > > > > > > > --- Jeff Fischer <jeffcandace@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When one has *awakened* where do they go > when > > > they > > > > > drop the body? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
