--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > This is what happens when science is used for PR
> > > purposes. The ME is full of holes.
> > > 
> > Also I don't think it will ever work to use the results of 
science, 
> > which measures phenomena objectively, to prove the benefits of a 
> > technique that has as its purpose the unification of the subject 
and 
> > object. As we used to say, 'does not compute'.
> > 
> > The only thing that can be said with any certainty is that the ME 
> > produces profoundly positive results. How? When? Where? Can't 
say. 
> > It's, er, paradoxical...
> >
> 
> Why can't science measure such things? Its plausible that the 
ultimate result might be beyond 
> scientific measurement, but insomuch as it is a "real world" 
phenomenon, there should be 
> measureable real world effects.
>

If it exists it can be measured, no question, no paradox.

If the results are profound it should be profoundly obvious, we'll 
see in a year one way or t'other


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