Hi, I just recently joined this list, but there sure does seem to be a whole 
lot of arguing going on here alas.  I know nothing about this Maharishi Mahesh 
Yogi feller, but in their own terms and words maybe they are talking about the 
same thing that I and others talk about and which we found by accident 
spontaneously without even seeking it.  And they are all natural mystics with 
this gnosis or whatever you choose to call them, and they all talk about the 
same thing, albeit using different words and sometimes symbols. But it can also 
be spoken about in plain and simple language as is - AS IS found to be by 
experience.  That is why the only thing I ever decided to join was the Asisian 
Knights and Ladies Fraternity for they do not beat about the bush in dialogue 
and they live their stuff, they walk the talk.  And they give people that which 
exists to be found which religions do not mention and which science texts books 
do not give them - that eternal and ever lasting wisdom in the ground of our 
being.

So, my idea of a mystic is somebody who has hit that realm of consciousness 
beyond the levels of personality, memories, the potential to think; beyond the 
perception of Time and Space, and in which there is not even any memory of this 
world at all (or ever having been in it whilst there).  And all one knows there 
is what they are, where they come from, why they exist, and what creation IS 
and why it is - hence a primordial explosion of love (passion really) and this 
innate eternal knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and the love of TO BE, and the 
love of that very mysterious (whatever) which many call 'No Created Thing'.

And then of course they bring all that back to this place with them on their 
return here and live by what life itself has taught them in its ground of being 
- and to which it had spontaneously dragged them back for a few earthly hours.  
From Eternity for this purpose. Ab Aeterno Ad Hoc. In order to know their Self 
and to know what they are and what they are not. The knower and the known in a 
unitary reunion of passion and that peace which passes all understanding in the 
very bowel or womb of Eternity.

But then again, that is just my use of the word of course.

Dick.

Order of The Asisian Knights.

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