--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dick:
> 
> It used to be a rather nice, synergistic list. Numerous people who  
> like to argue a lot came over from the Usenet list  
> alt.meditation.transcendental (which is mud-sling central, argue-
> till-you-drop kinda spew-fest of a list) and many of that lists 
> tendencies  followed from that diaspora.

Not to, um, argue or anything, but that is an
exceptionally one-sided (not to mention self-serving)
perspective.





> 
> Vaj.
> 
> On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Dick Richardson wrote:
> 
> > Hi, I just recently joined this list, but there sure does seem 
to  
> > be a whole lot of arguing going on here alas.  I know nothing 
about  
> > this Maharishi Mahesh Yogi feller, but in their own terms and 
words  
> > maybe they are talking about the same thing that I and others 
talk  
> > about and which we found by accident spontaneously without even  
> > seeking it.  And they are all natural mystics with this gnosis 
or  
> > whatever you choose to call them, and they all talk about the 
same  
> > thing, albeit using different words and sometimes symbols. But 
it  
> > can also be spoken about in plain and simple language as is - AS 
IS  
> > found to be by experience.  That is why the only thing I ever  
> > decided to join was the Asisian Knights and Ladies Fraternity 
for  
> > they do not beat about the bush in dialogue and they live their  
> > stuff, they walk the talk.  And they give people that which 
exists  
> > to be found which religions do not mention and which science 
texts  
> > books do not give them - that eternal and ever lasting wisdom in  
> > the ground of our being.
> >
> > So, my idea of a mystic is somebody who has hit that realm of  
> > consciousness beyond the levels of personality, memories, the  
> > potential to think; beyond the perception of Time and Space, and 
in  
> > which there is not even any memory of this world at all (or ever  
> > having been in it whilst there).  And all one knows there is 
what  
> > they are, where they come from, why they exist, and what 
creation  
> > IS and why it is - hence a primordial explosion of love (passion  
> > really) and this innate eternal knowledge, understanding, 
wisdom,  
> > and the love of TO BE, and the love of that very mysterious  
> > (whatever) which many call 'No Created Thing'.
> >
> > And then of course they bring all that back to this place with 
them  
> > on their return here and live by what life itself has taught 
them  
> > in its ground of being - and to which it had spontaneously 
dragged  
> > them back for a few earthly hours.  From Eternity for this 
purpose.  
> > Ab Aeterno Ad Hoc. In order to know their Self and to know what  
> > they are and what they are not. The knower and the known in a  
> > unitary reunion of passion and that peace which passes all  
> > understanding in the very bowel or womb of Eternity.
> >
> > But then again, that is just my use of the word of course.
> >
> > Dick.
> >
> > Order of The Asisian Knights.
> >
>


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